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embreeb
October 26th, 2009, 11:05 PM
I used Netflix from within Boxee this afternoon, and it worked fine. It did ask to install a cookie the first time, but nothing else was different from when it used to work eons ago. I did notice that it didn't show my entire "Instant Queue", but it seemed to only be a few things less than if I viewed my Queue from a web browser. I watched Millers Crossing (excellent movie BTW)--the quality on my 32" SDTV was OK (showed up in Full Screen...sort of), but other than that it worked fine. I have yet to try watching TV shows from my queue, but I plan on doing it later tonight. I will post the results. Anyone else been able to use Netfllix again in Windows?

cogadh
October 26th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Yep, I can confirm it now works for me on Windows XP. However, the quality was rather low and it appears that it did not automatically go into "fullscreen" mode (I had to use the "zoom" function to approximate it).

DPK
October 26th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Whoa, awesome! Confirmed here as well!

You'd think they would post some news up on the main blog site about this. Then again, the blog has been lacking lately.

cogadh
October 27th, 2009, 12:10 AM
Just to expand upon my earlier post, I've done some completely un-scientific testing, comparing Netflix via Boxee to Netflix via the website and it appears that when using Boxee, there is some kind of network latency or congestion introduced that makes Netflix lower the video quality significantly. It is actually noticeable before the movie even starts playing as it takes much longer to connect to the Netflix movie server, determine video quality and buffer the first few minutes of the movie. At this point, while it is fantastic that Netflix now works, it does not work well enough for me to use Boxee over going straight to the website. I hope this is just a temporary situation and that the Netflix app will improve over time and with further development.

marcel
October 27th, 2009, 03:14 AM
one step at a time..

marcel
October 27th, 2009, 06:20 AM
can you compare it to the firefox browser and tell me if there is any difference..speed? quality?

Fuzzgtp
October 27th, 2009, 08:30 AM
excellent. guess its time for me to get my trial account on netflix

judgeschambers
October 27th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I might test drive it now to, but it sounds like the quality is on the low side for now.

I assume something changed at NF to make is suddenly start working on Boxee??? :confused:

UPDATE:
Completely unwatchable on my PC via Boxee. Lag-O-Ramma.
Now via FFox browser it was great!

cogadh
October 27th, 2009, 10:29 AM
can you compare it to the firefox browser and tell me if there is any difference..speed? quality?

My original comparison was done with Firefox (don't use IE unless I have to). The speed and quality when using Netflix via the browser is much higher than when used through Boxee. Like I said, it was a completely un-scientific test, so all I really did was a visual/observational comparison of the same two or three movies (actually a TV show, a movie and an anime). Boxee took much longer to load up the movie; each individual step of the loading process (connecting to server, determining quality, etc.) was noticeably longer and when the movie or show finally did start, I would compare the quality of it to a mid to very low-quality YouTube video. The quality issue was much worse for the TV show than it was for the movie or anime, but that was most likely due to the fact that it it didn't really launch in full screen and I used the zoom function (the movie and the anime, which were both widescreen, did launch in fullscreen normally, while the TV show that was in standard 4:3 resolution did not).

embreeb
October 27th, 2009, 11:30 AM
I would definitely agree that the quality and startup time was much lower than through the browser. However, it wasn't as bad as others are saying--I would estimate it to be at the low end of DVD quality. I watched 2 different movies (Millers Crossing - 1990, and Dead Man's Shoes-2004), and I did notice there was an increase in quality with the newer movie, which could be do to the source material. I did have a lot of trouble watching episodes of Red Dwarf through NF on Boxee -- it was impossible to select a specific episode to watch, so it would pick the first one. Also, it never seemed to go past the 3rd ep: I would have to FF to the end of the ep, then STOP the player, then PLAY it again. After several attempts, it never went past the 3rd episode. It seems fine for movies, but obviously doesn't work for TV shows. I'm glad I don't have to use Zinc (ZeeTV) anymore -- I hate it.

DPK
October 27th, 2009, 11:42 AM
No major issues here. The quality looks a bit less than what I'd get on Netflix.com streaming via Firefox, but it's barely noticeable. I dunno, maybe it's because the machine I'm on right now has fairly new hardware.

akslug
October 27th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I see the request for a cookie, approve it, then get a message sending me off to boxee.tv/netflix to pair the two accounts. After following this link and successfully pairing (my netflix status shows as connected at boxee.tv) I still get the "please pair your account with netflix" screen. I've tried re-authorizing numerous times with no luck, as well as restarting boxee and the computer.

Is anyone else running into this problem? Anyone have a solution... ?

edit: I'm running XP under the latest build of boxee.
edit: Problem solved, I have two boxee accounts somehow and I paired the wrong account! Oops...

htpc-power
October 27th, 2009, 01:18 PM
I've built a couple htpc's at home and have been a user of MediaPortal for sometime. I also finally gave up on directv last month, after much negotiating w/ the kids and wife. I found Boxee via the Scientific American mag article reading it on my Caltrain commute yesterday. I installed and tried it yesterday night and I must confess I'm amazed w/ Boxee, almost everything on the tip of your remote! Congrats everyone who worked/works on this project.
I did try the Netflix/Boxee connection. It worked fine, but very slowly. I hope Netflix performance is part of the improvements planned for Boxee.

marcel
October 27th, 2009, 02:22 PM
guys cheers for the updates can you post your Hardware ,OS and internet speed.. cheers

lazarskip
October 27th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Playback is youtube quality and can be a little jerky with the Netflix plugin. No issues when playing back from IE or firefox directly.

All other plugins work without issue.

Dual core 2.6 / 3gigs ram / ATI 2400 pro / XP pro sp3
Dual core 2.6 / 4 gigs / GeForce 8400GS / XP pro sp3
3mb down 1 mb up.

6987 build on both.

cogadh
October 27th, 2009, 03:54 PM
guys cheers for the updates can you post your Hardware ,OS and internet speed.. cheers
Fairly low-end:
Windows XP SP3
P4 3.0Ghz HT
2GB PC3200 RAM (1.5 GB RAM free on average)
GeForce 7600 GS 256MB
2X 120GB EIDE drives (7200 RPM, 8MB cache)
SB Audigy LS
6mbps down/1mbps up cable internet, though on Sunday it is supposed to be doubled to 12 down/2 up, might make a difference.

Spiffyguy
October 27th, 2009, 03:56 PM
WOW. Hurray. Very exciting news. But it is not working for me. I can browse and launch great. Awesome is all I can say. But playback is all black, no audio or video. Problem being is the bxflplayer-win32.exe, I am guessing the flash player, pegs out my CPU. Whole system lags. Probably why I am not getting any vid or audio. I can slowly navigate to the stop button and then all is well again. So the flash player is what is killing me. Upside is I have a brand new box of parts on the way, coreI7, lots of ram 5870 vid card, and wind 7 64bit See how it looks with that system. I have not had a chance to check my laptop with vista. I will try that and report. Great job dev team. Very happy.

win7 RC1 32bit
3.4 intel
3gb ram
Uverse - 3mb down

judgeschambers
October 27th, 2009, 04:48 PM
As I posted earlier, Netflix plays-

Via Boxee, waaaaay lagy. video is a minute behind audio. Crappy.
Via IE or FF directly: Perfectly normal. Beautiful actually.

Windows XP SP3
AMD Athlon 3200+ 2.2 ghz @ 400 fsb
2 gb ram 400 FSB
Nvdia 5600 256 MB video card.

Silverlight: 3.0.40818.0 (updated when I ran NFlix on Boxee first time)

Cable: 7 mb down

Yeah, circa 2003 hardware.

marcel
October 28th, 2009, 02:42 AM
you guys using the latest silverlight version 3.0 or 2.0?

judgeschambers
October 28th, 2009, 05:56 AM
I had it installed already, but upon running the NFix app the first time in Boxee I was prompted for a Silverlight installation. It appears I now have: 3.0.40818.0

DPK
October 28th, 2009, 06:55 AM
I had it installed already, but upon running the NFix app the first time in Boxee I was prompted for a Silverlight installation. It appears I now have: 3.0.40818.0

That's what it appears I have as well:
Silverlight Plug-In

File name: npctrl.1.0.30716.0.dll
3.0.40818.0

Spiffyguy
October 28th, 2009, 07:17 AM
I am running version 3.0.40818.0 of silverlight.

marcel
October 28th, 2009, 07:33 AM
cheers guys ..

cfranzen05
October 28th, 2009, 08:36 AM
I have Windows 7 and Netflix is unwatchable.
Hulu does not play well either.

Its all jittery. Is the flash issue fixed in Windows 7? I updated everything I could think of last night.

lazarskip
October 28th, 2009, 09:59 AM
silverlight 3.0.40818.0
Flash 10.0.32.18

cogadh
October 28th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Like everyone else, latest Silverlight (and Flash).

starblight
October 28th, 2009, 12:41 PM
I have Windows 7 and Netflix is unwatchable.
Hulu does not play well either.

Its all jittery. Is the flash issue fixed in Windows 7? I updated everything I could think of last night.


running windows XP here and having the same issue. I have not had time to really try out much to fix it though. I will report back later after I try some simple options like restarting :)

I should note though that Hulu has always had this problem.

Silverlite is the latest but my flash player is 10.0.12.36 so I will update that.


system specs:

Win XP sp3
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (2.0 GHz)
1 GB Ram
ATI Radeon 9800 128MB ram

starblight
October 28th, 2009, 03:28 PM
After updating flash and trying a fresh restart I can say that Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube are all working but the video is like a slide show. The audio seems to work fine though.

I will try and get some more ram and see if that changes anything. Or even better I will install it on my gaming machine and see how it works.

marcel
October 29th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Thanks guy inorder for us to improve the quality can you guys also post the CPU and try and split it between Boxee and bxflplayer-win32 as well as the hardware you are using ..cheers

roror
October 29th, 2009, 05:35 AM
I was ecstatic to find it accidentally yesterday! The quality seemed just as good as it is when I use vista media center or the browser. No lag or poor video quality at all.

I use a 2.5GHz core2duo machine and have a FIOS wired connection on my living room pc. And I only have a 26" TV.

cogadh
October 29th, 2009, 10:20 AM
Thanks guy inorder for us to improve the quality can you guys also post the CPU and try and split it between Boxee and bxflplayer-win32 as well as the hardware you are using ..cheers
Is this what you want?

Intel P4 3.0Ghz HT
BOXEE.exe - Averages about 12% CPU usage with drops as low as 8% and spikes as high as 20%. RAM usage steady at about 69MB
bxflplayer-win32.exe - Averages about 55% CPU usage, with drops as low as 48% and spikes as high as 70%. RAM usage climbs steadily until it reaches about 200MB, then fluctuates from 198MB to 205MB.
Setting the affinity for each to a single "processor" (this just a hyperthreading processor, so take that with a grain of salt) doesn't change the numbers, but it may have produced a slight quality increase. Its kind of hard to tell at this point, but while the video is still very choppy, the pixellation of the image does seem to have decreased some... either that or I'm just getting used to it.

Rest of the specs:
2GB PC3200 RAM
GeForce 7600GS 256MB
SB Audigy LS
2X EIDE 120GB drives, 8MB cache
Wired cable internet, 6mbps down/1mbps up
Windows XP SP3

bigmattyh
October 30th, 2009, 06:27 PM
On Vista, running the latest build of Boxee:

I have an external TV hooked up to my machine as a secondary display. When I run Boxee in my primary display, Netflix works fine. When I run it in the secondary display (my TV), the picture does not show up at all -- just a black screen. However, the audio plays (but see the next point).

Also, the Netflix app does something I've noticed this with other apps, such as Hulu:

In addition to a secondary display, I have set up Boxee to output its audio via a secondary audio device, to my stereo. This works fine for Pandora and any local files I play within Boxee. But with Netflix (and a few others, Hulu included), the audio is only output through my computer's speakers.

So, I'd call that two distinct bugs. Let me know if I can provide any additional info.

Kal890yu
October 31st, 2009, 07:09 AM
Works perfect for me with no difference in video quality compared to firefox

embreeb
November 1st, 2009, 12:57 PM
I have been having problems with the picture pausing, but the audio continuing to play. It's only happened a couple of times, and it usually only lasts a couple of minutes at most. They were 2 really bad horror movies, so it's not a big deal. Anyone else have this problem?

bmoura
November 2nd, 2009, 12:48 AM
I am running version 3.0.40818.0 of silverlight.

Same version of Silverlight here.

bmoura
November 2nd, 2009, 12:49 AM
Thanks guy inorder for us to improve the quality can you guys also post the CPU and try and split it between Boxee and bxflplayer-win32 as well as the hardware you are using ..cheers

Hmm, how do you split the CPU?

jeffjpeterson
November 4th, 2009, 02:32 PM
I have been having a few issues with Netflix on boxee. First thing i noticed when I launched the app on my 64bit Windows 7 pc was that the Netflix logo doesnt even fit in the given space. When I play a movie, it is very slow and laggy.

On a more postive note, everything seemed to work fine on my laptop, which runs win xp

EDIT: All video play back on my Windows 7 box is spotty. I have tried Cruchyroll, Youtube, and Netlflix and they all run bad.

muslimsteel
November 6th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I tried it the other night and was a bit disappointed, my computer isn't that old and the video is very choppy, any other app works great (hulu, abc, etc). I checked out my processes and the bxflplayer-win32.exe process was using quite a bit of my processor (70% or so) while boxee was using the rest. I am running Windows XP SP3 with the newest version of Boxee, Flash, and Silverlight. My hardware specs are as follows:

Intel Dual core E5200 running at 2.5GHz
4GB RAM with PAE enabled
Gigabyte GA-EG45M-UD2H with
Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD (Intel GMA X4500HD)

I can also play Netflix in IE and FF with no issues whatsoever.

What is Boxee doing to the Netflix video to consume so much CPU?

In addition one of my friends at work said I should get an add on video card since Boxee is all OpenGL based and currently its running all of that on processor since I'm using the on board video.

Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks.

Bugs63
November 9th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Netflix works fine for me, Thanks for all your efforts.. Good interface too.

pr0wlunwoof
November 9th, 2009, 02:43 PM
3ghz P4 1.5gb of ddr2 and a geforce 9400 1gb graphics card
Running windows xp sp3
It works but its very choppy.
Runs fine inside browser though.

adamjdahl
November 10th, 2009, 12:31 PM
I've gone through on multiple machines (with a wide range of specs) and on Win XP Netflix on Boxee visually appears to operate better than it does on Win 7. Compared to the actual Netflix experience through in IE or FireFox the performance is quite impaired. In XP the image quaility is subpar and in Win 7 I often experiences jumps and stutering with the playback. Again both systems playback fine when utilizing a web browser. Running the most current versions of Flash and Silverlight. I'm happy with the progress, though I hope these issues can be corrected for the Beta.

ashtonisdrugfree
November 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM
it's a shame that it still doesn't work. half of the content in boxee doesn't work for me and the other half comes out in such crap quality that it's pointless for me to even have it on my pc anymore.. on top of that, i absolutely cannot get the newest version to install on my pc. if i uninstall the old and install the new, the version # is still the older of the 2. i'm running windows 7 and honestly, boxee can't do anything that media center can't do if you have the right plugins. i've been rocking boxee for a while, but the more the fix, the more they break.

Spiffyguy
November 15th, 2009, 09:39 PM
I have had a chance to test netflix with my new computer. It worked very well. No stuttering at all. Audio and video was on par with what I would expect from a browser, although I didn't test with one. The quality is completely watchable on my 24" monitor. That said, I did notice the flash player ate up about 15% of my CPU and at least 125K of ram. Very viable on my computer so I say thank you for working on it.

I do have a high end machine now and that may be why I have such good quality. Specs are:
Win 7 64bit pro (yes I know it is not supported, but it works)
Core I7 920 overclocked to 3.6ghz
6 gb trichannel ram
Visiontek 5870 video card

Let me know if there is anything specific you wanted tested. Glad to help.

jasonsbytes
November 16th, 2009, 12:45 PM
I have an older Dell 745 Optiplex with a Core 2 due, 2Gb RAM and ATI 4550 HDMI and Netflix works well. I notice no diff between browser and Boxee... However, the Netflix APP does not go full screen, I have to zoom or H-FILL on my Pana-Plasma to fill the screen...otherwise there is about an inch border around it.

munkymack
November 20th, 2009, 07:52 PM
on top of that, i absolutely cannot get the newest version to install on my pc. if i uninstall the old and install the new, the version # is still the older of the 2.

ashtonisdrugfree, I had the same problem too. Turns out I (and you as well) ARE running the new version, there's just a typo in the version numbers

http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=11601

Specifically, look at the ninth post in that thread.

cpctc1234
November 21st, 2009, 11:06 AM
I tested the Netflix app and the first time I tried it the picture seemed to be low quality. However after exiting out of Boxee and watching the same movie through my internet browser I realized that the actually quality of the film was to blame not Boxee. So far everything I've tried works great, thanks Boxee!

biggity007
November 21st, 2009, 07:55 PM
All,

Just wanted to report that I'm experiencing the same situation as many others here: Netflix *works* on my Boxee, but the quality of a given stream is significantly lower than the same content via firefox, IE, or chrome. Tested Body Double, Arthur (kids cartoon), and 30 Rock. Browser experience is full HD in some cases. Gorgeous. Boxee experience is Youtube quality.

My specs: amd athlon 64 x2 dual 4000+ ; 2gb ram

Great work thus far gang, THANKS and best of luck!
~!mike

tsyndr
December 3rd, 2009, 09:56 AM
I can't get Netflix to work. I linked my accounts, I can see all the movies and instant watch stuff. When I try to watch something, it just keeps showing the red "Connecting to Netflix" screen. Never actually gets to playing the movie. Doesn't appear frozen, just it is waiting for a connection

Most other things with Boxee work fine for me, I do realize boxee is not officially supported on x64 platforms. Just wondering if anyone had any ideas.

Intel E5200
4gb ram
Win7 x64 Pro
ATI HD4550

rickgomez2003
December 8th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Netflix work great I have had no issues and my kids love the cartoons.:D

lzrdking
December 11th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Netflix won't work for me at all in Boxee. It works fine in FF. In Boxee, if i click the NetFlix icon, Boxee thinks for a moment, then just goes back to the Applications screen. What am I missing? My account is linked on the Boxee website. Thanks!

petedoc
December 12th, 2009, 08:38 PM
I have found that Netflix works only if my secondary display (HDMI TV) is set to 16 bit. I am running Intel G45 Chipset HDMI video. Let me know if i can help in any other way.

embreeb
December 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM
I've noticed problems with TV shows -- the episodes are not in order. If I look at the episodes with a web browser, the episodes are in the order they were released. However, if I use Boxee, the order is wrong, but they're not in alphabetical order either. I thought there was a way to sort the episodes by release date or alphabetically. Anyone else have this problem, or no a solution?

lzrdking
December 13th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Netflix won't work for me at all in Boxee. It works fine in FF. In Boxee, if i click the NetFlix icon, Boxee thinks for a moment, then just goes back to the Applications screen. What am I missing? My account is linked on the Boxee website. Thanks!
It works now :)

embreeb
December 16th, 2009, 12:26 AM
Well, now Netflix stopped working after I installed the Beta. I get the "WSOD" (White Screen of Death); no video, just audio. Using Boxee in Windowed mode doesn't change anything. Very frustrated since it worked before. Anyone have a fix yet? I will install the newest Alpha version and use that for Netflix only.

Automate
December 16th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Well, now Netflix stopped working after I installed the Beta. I get the "WSOD" (White Screen of Death); no video, just audio. Using Boxee in Windowed mode doesn't change anything. Very frustrated since it worked before. Anyone have a fix yet? I will install the newest Alpha version and use that for Netflix only.I am seeing the same thing with Beta, all white screen, no video but audio works. Using a Nvida Quadro FX 770M laptop graphics card.

Edit: Netflix video works on another computer with ATI Radeon HD 4350 and Boxee beta.

prospero
December 17th, 2009, 10:21 AM
I launch the Netflix app and get a solid red screen with white text saying I need to link my Netflix account with Boxee but the login spaces (I assume they're there) are hidden and I can't see them.

embreeb
December 17th, 2009, 12:48 PM
Netflix works fine on Mac, but episodes are still out of order. On XP, I was able to install the latest Alpha version in a different directory so I can watch Netflix on Windows. Hope this gets fixed soon.

embreeb
December 21st, 2009, 11:17 PM
Netflix stopped connecting now - keeps asking me to "pair boxee with my Netflix account." I've tried re-pairing it several times, as well as deleting it from my Services tab, then adding it again. Still won't work. Any ideas?

ckpas
December 23rd, 2009, 10:40 AM
Netflix doesn't work for me, actually it works in the sense that I'm able to browse through the titles, but when I play a title I only hear an audio. I have the latest MS Silverlight installed but it didn't help either. Is this a known defect, I am running win7 and I am able to watch netflix from firefox which isn't an issue at all.

embreeb
December 24th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Netflix stopped connecting now - keeps asking me to "pair boxee with my Netflix account." I've tried re-pairing it several times, as well as deleting it from my Services tab, then adding it again. Still won't work. Any ideas?

This is only a problem with the OS X version. Windows version works just fine.

epayson85
December 26th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Netflix streaming works for me but the quality needs some work. I don't know if anyone has ever used it on an xbox 360 or a blu-ray player. If you have you will know the quality difference I am talking about. On a samsung 3600 on a dsl connection I was getting DVD quality that looked fantastic. On my boxee box with a 15mbps downstream I am getting very low resolution quality. I will say thats even with my computers browser as well though. If I use my 360 it looks great so its not my internet connection. It seems to me that it has something to do with the software that Roku, xbox, and blu-ray players are using.

honestbleeps
December 27th, 2009, 01:31 AM
Netflix works for me, but is insanely slow, and low quality... It takes a few minutes from the time I hit "play" on a movie until it shows up... and when it finally does, quality is very low.

I know it's not my connection, because if I use it via my Xbox 360 (plugged into the same wired router that my HTPC is), it works fine with HD quality...

lament
December 27th, 2009, 12:17 PM
I'm sure this has been brought up (haven't read the thread), but the quality of the Netflix feed is pretty crap compared to both my TiVo HD and the PS3.

A good measure is any of the HD Lost episodes.

Using the beta, btw..

spideymd
December 27th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I am always getting a "Movie Playing Failed" error now. Not sure why. In the alpha version, if I logged out of the Netflix app and logged back in, it worked. In the beta version, there does not seem to be a way to log out and log back in. Even if I go to boxee.tv and reauthorize, same problem.

syntaxone
December 28th, 2009, 08:49 AM
I'm still stuck @ "Connecting to Netflix", on the Beta.

Did the cookie, linked my account from boxee.tv, my queue shows up fine. But, nothing plays.
I noticed a couple other folks with this problem. Any possible resolution?

Windows 7 32bit
E6300 Pentium Dual Core 2.8GHz
GeForce 9300/nForce 730i
2 Gigs RAM

kjoy82
December 31st, 2009, 07:14 AM
[QUOTE=syntaxone;74194]I'm still stuck @ "Connecting to Netflix", on the Beta.

Did the cookie, linked my account from boxee.tv, my queue shows up fine. But, nothing plays.
I noticed a couple other folks with this problem. Any possible resolution?



You did install Silverlight on your system, right?

pleasantcrew
January 1st, 2010, 08:09 PM
i linked the boxee and netflix account and for some reason im still being asked to register with netflix each time i try to logon through boxee. what am i doing wrong? do i have to change som settings?:mad:

pleasantcrew
January 1st, 2010, 08:13 PM
This is only a problem with the OS X version. Windows version works just fine.
so if it works fine in windows. why am i still getting the "pair" message? do i have to adjust some settings?

mistapony
January 2nd, 2010, 09:52 PM
Netflix is definitely choppier in boxee using windows 7. I tested Netflix in Windows Media Center and its much smoother and cleaner, any ideas the difference there?

thanks

kjoy82
January 5th, 2010, 02:53 PM
Netflix works, but looks like garbage. Chunky squares and lots of noise in the picture. Not even close to what it looks like running on my Roku Player. Within Boxee, it is a pixelated mess. Honestly though, not much better in the browser on my 60" tv. Could be more of a Silverlight issue than Boxee. I'm going to try to force Silverlight bitrate through the apparent CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+S...will see if quality will increase. Not sure if that will work or not from within Boxee...

mlutter
January 7th, 2010, 07:16 PM
I am getting the "please pair" message when I bring up the app. It's not so good.
Running the beta in XP sp3.

Arcaneous
January 9th, 2010, 01:21 AM
Netflix works fine outside of boxee, but when viewing with boxee the video is so choppy it is unwatchable. I noticed that my processor utilization virtually pegged out.

remy7
January 10th, 2010, 09:22 AM
Loaded up Netflix and constantly crashes when browsing through the menus. Can see all content and my account comes up fine, but if switching between search to my recommendations, it'll crash every time. Will stick to using browser for now.

@mlutter - FYI: you have to setup your account on the boxee website and it will auto sync to the boxee software.

lament
January 10th, 2010, 11:45 AM
@mlutter - FYI: you have to setup your account on the boxee website and it will auto sync to the boxee software.
lack of instructions is the problem, actually. It's not obvious what you need to do.

bigmattyh
January 10th, 2010, 03:52 PM
I've noticed that the Netflix app is showing TV episodes out of order. Is there any way to fix this?

dconti
January 10th, 2010, 07:23 PM
I think it's great that netflix works in boxee, but the experience is pretty marginal overall when compared to the xbox360.

Some basic things that seem to be completely missing:

* Access to the HD stream; everything seems to be sub-480p

* A reasonable organizational system for content
-- If you look at a TV series, you can see episode names but not numbers, and have no assurance that they are in order since none of the content appears to be ordered
-- There is no preview for episode descriptions; you have to open the episode
-- If you go back from a description it takes you to the top of your search results, so you have to scroll through pages and pages to get back to where you were
-- No segregation of new content into new tv, new moves, etc

* Indications of how much of a given episode or movie you have watched, if you've watched something all the way before, etc

smm1325
January 11th, 2010, 04:57 PM
On my Boxee machine, (Windows XP SP3, 1GB ram, 2GHZ CPU) I cannot use the netflix app inside of Boxee. The video is extremely choppy. The application crashes at times when surfing through the netflix app's menus. I can watch netflix movies with no problem using Internet Explorer on the same box, quality is great, no stuttering or re-buffering.

ShawnM

snoop
January 12th, 2010, 04:56 PM
I have been using the Windows Media center netflix plugin for awhile now and the one for boxee is much more snappy and quick. However, it wasnt designed for 4:3 CRT TVs. The netflix logo is cut off. The text is very small. Even making bold would help. The Windows Media center layout is far superior than the vertical interface. Theres too many movies crammed on one screen. Less, bigger movies would be nicer. The high contrast colors of red and black is harsh on the eyes. The soft colors of the windows media center is easier to look at.

I dont know whats different between the Netflix stream to Boxee and Windows media center but the boxee stream is constantly slow and stuttering. i do have the latest version of silver light also.

funyfarm
January 13th, 2010, 08:21 PM
ok i installed Boxee , and tried it out ,,:D luvin it!!!!!!!

one small query? how does one pair it with their netflix account.. is it done at netflix , i can not seem to find it in the pref.. scuse me settings,, using vistsa home prem , 4gig ram , lennovo box ,, any help would be appreciated

funy

when one loses the humor,, then there is no reason to continue

marcel
January 14th, 2010, 03:52 AM
# Pair your Netflix account via your Boxee account page http://boxee.tv/account/services (Please make sure to pair your account and run the Netflix app. on the same machine ).
# Install Microsoft Silverlight for Mac.
# Start the Netflix app on Boxee.

funyfarm
January 14th, 2010, 04:00 AM
:o Marcel u the man.. Funy would never look on Boxee.com but i see it now.

in your posted reply you say to install silverlight for mac ,,, using vista machine. are we cross platforming.. i have silverlight on the vista machine

signed
Clear as mud

when one loses the humor,,, why should they continue

when one loses the humor,, then there is no reason to continue

marcel
January 14th, 2010, 04:34 AM
is it now working?

brainbone
January 14th, 2010, 11:42 AM
I find the quality of Netflix in Boxee disappointing. Knowing that Boxee is now a Netflix Branded Partner, I expected better -- since Boxee should now be able to tap some resources at Netflix.

Boxee still seems to render the silverlight player in small hidden window, then proceeds to crop/re-size that to full screen. This results in blury, choppy playback even my 6yr. old can't stand watching.

Netflix rendered in a browser window or in WMC (using an embedded IE browser) works much better -- as does my own Autohotkey hack (used by SageTV and MediaPortal netflix plugins).

Is there a plan to fix this, and render Netflix directly in an embedded browser window?

befungle
January 16th, 2010, 10:21 AM
I've been testing Boxee on a number of systems in evaluation of it as a future "all in one" solution for home media. However, like others on this tread, I'm seeing terrible network performance on Boxee for Windows.

Because I have Boxee in test on a second gen Mac Mini, assortments of power books, an iMac and a respectable windows 7 box; I can say I've absolutely identified major playback performance issues that only exist in the Windows world for Boxee.

The problem I see is a consistent need to re-buffer and adjust streams for all online content (not just Netflix). Again, similar to other post here, I can say that Netflix, Hulu, etc stream without issue in HD from any web browser (IE, Firefox, Safari)... so the only variable is Boxee on Windows.

Having recently abandoned my own computer media library project due to lack of time, Boxee seems to offer a great potential for meeting the needs I had previously been trying to program on my own. But, stabilizing the windows 7 is an important step for adding to the user base of Boxee.

I'm not a windows fanatic, or even a closet fan, but it would be nice to have all machines able to use Boxee.

larryzoll
January 18th, 2010, 11:45 AM
I've noticed the lower quality on Boxee as well. I compared it to streaming through the PS3 and there is a distinct difference in quality even though both systems are connected to my television via hdmi.

My bigger concern though is that when I'm browsing Netflix on Boxee it crashes the program every time I try to switch categories. Anyone else have this problem?

befungle
January 18th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Installed Windows Media Center 12 on same machine. It streams HD with no rebuffering as well. The rebuffering is isolated to Boxee, but I don't understand.

Right now Boxee is only watchable on the Macs of the house, the PC's are just not quite there in performance. :(

marcel
January 19th, 2010, 03:36 AM
guys are you running the latest version of boxee?

@larryzoll what OS? is it the latest version?

befungle
January 19th, 2010, 08:28 AM
guys are you running the latest version of boxee?



I just downloaded a new version last night per an email... but it was late and have not had a chance to validate on Windows (though we did on the Mac). My "day" job calls today, but it is a good change I will have a moment this evening to give it a try and compare.

Finger's crossed!
:D

marcel
January 19th, 2010, 01:42 PM
if anyone else has this issue please email me at marcel{at}boxee{dot}tv before re-installing their boxee..

brainbone
January 20th, 2010, 04:03 PM
if anyone else has this issue please email me at marcel{at}boxee{dot}tv before re-installing their boxee..

By "this issue", are you referring to the "rebuffering" issue, the low quality/choppiness from being re-sized issue, a combination of these issues, or some other issue?

Panahasi
January 24th, 2010, 12:05 PM
Sorry if this is a dup, I have not read every message.

Netflix episodes are not listed in order, this needs to be addressed. I do not know if it is a Netflix or a boxee item but it is essential to know the episode order to view them in order.

Boxee crashes very often when changing categories in netflix. So far it seems like it crashes every time i click on or off of my recommendations.
Where does boxee get the information from my recommendations, there are movies there that I would never recommend, there are movies there I have never seen or rated?

The netflix app is very slow to respond to any click or keypress.

Netflix on Boxee for Windows, The not quite ready for primetime application!

:)

morscata12
January 24th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Did Netflix remove its Boxee integration? I tried adding Dexter to my list of shows, but it doesn't come up in the search.

marcel
January 25th, 2010, 04:29 AM
no ..did you try searching for Dexter via the netflix application..

morscata12
January 25th, 2010, 12:36 PM
The Netflix app is working for me - I'm able to find shows by searching in it. However, I am unable to find Dexter using the main Boxee Search feature while looking at the TV Shows page. I remember seeing seasons 1 and 2 available in my TV show queue, but they are no longer there.

Also, shows that are in my netflix queue that were added to my list of Boxee shows are no longer available. The box art has been replaced by a text-only image, and no episodes are inside the season.

Edit: It's like what happened in this thread (http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=15237), but in reverse.

larryzoll
January 25th, 2010, 06:26 PM
Marcel,

I went back and realized I wasn't running the latest version so I upgraded to .10408 but I'm still having the same issues with netflix. Both my PS3 and the comp I'm using for Boxee are hard wired into my router. The only thing I can think of is that my PC isnt' running fast enough. That being said I'm running a 2.3 ghz sempron processor with 2 gb of ram plus another 1 gb of memory built into the video card. I can't imagine it wouldn't be fast enough to stream the HD content that my PS3 is streaming.

kjoy82
January 26th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Has there been any improvement over the quality of the feed in the newer version? As discussed previously, Boxee seems to be stretching the Netflix screen which leads to highly pixelated video stream. Wondering if they perhaps fixed this in the most recent version.

ankurvdesai
January 27th, 2010, 06:31 PM
What's happening to morscata12 is also happening to me. Downloaded Boxee beta last night; running Mac OS 10.5.8. Getting results from Hulu and Comedy Central; doesn't look like I'm getting Netflix (or Clicker, for that matter). The Netflix and Clicker apps work fine otherwise-- they just don't populate the overall Boxee search function.

Any ideas?

-- ankur

cncb
January 31st, 2010, 08:22 AM
Sorry if I missed this discussed somewhere but is there a way to restart a Netflix video from the beginning after you have already played some of it? Thanks.

brainbone
January 31st, 2010, 12:36 PM
Has there been any improvement over the quality of the feed in the newer version? As discussed previously, Boxee seems to be stretching the Netflix screen which leads to highly pixelated video stream. Wondering if they perhaps fixed this in the most recent version.

For Netflix, 10408 is the same pixelated, stuttering blur-fest as before.

While I'm envious that Boxee was able to retain Netflix Branded Partner status (I tried, and failed, to acquire it -- you need to show Netflix how you will bring Netflix 100,000+ users in less than 1 year), it unfortunately appears that, so far, Boxee has squandered it.

puppetj
February 3rd, 2010, 03:38 PM
well netflix get the resume watch function?

jadenman1
February 7th, 2010, 02:22 PM
I have boxee loaded on my mac and Netflix (in boxee) works fine, but I have boxee on my atv and there is no Netflix (same version, I think) ... I have beta on both. Can anyone help?

brainbone
February 9th, 2010, 07:49 AM
Simple question:

Is there any plan for Boxee to move from the current crop/zoom method of displaying netflix, to allowing the silverlight player to render directly to the screen natively?

lilaboc
February 15th, 2010, 09:01 PM
It works now :)

Netflix won't work for me at all in Boxee. It works fine in FF. In Boxee, if i click the NetFlix icon, Boxee thinks for a moment, then just goes back to the Applications screen. What am I missing? My account is linked on the Boxee website. Thanks!

I am having the same issue, just wondering how this problem was resolved for you. Thanks.

chad.socolovitch
February 15th, 2010, 09:31 PM
dopes netflix have a good enough or should i say recent enough library to pay for a membership?

from what i saw on their site it looked like older videos

darcilicious
February 15th, 2010, 11:00 PM
dopes netflix have a good enough or should i say recent enough library to pay for a membership?

"Recent enough" is entirely subjective. If you're the kind of person who likes to watch something on DVD/BluRay the day it's released then Netflix may not be for you. On the other hand, it's great for TV series that you may not have gotten around to watching, recording, or didn't have access to (Weeds comes to mind).

I believe they offer a two-week free trial -- just cancel before the two weeks is up and you won't be charged anything.

brainbone
February 16th, 2010, 10:06 AM
dopes netflix have a good enough or should i say recent enough library to pay for a membership?

If I didn't have kids, netflix "watch instantly" wouldn't be worth it. If you're planning on using it in boxee, wait to see if boxee can get it working without resorting to crop/zoom hacks.

xmcnuggetx
February 16th, 2010, 10:12 AM
the boxee netflix experience is painful for me... so much so that I now close out of boxee and use zinc(http://zinc.tv/). It's a firefox based browser (or extension if you'd rather use your current firefox install). Head to the settings and set it so it automatically fullscreens videos and it works well for netflix.

I wish this worked better from within boxee.

StreakyBoneHead
February 18th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Waiting for Netflix...

I am very pleased with the (fairly) recent interface - It is on my dedicated HTPC and has proven very wife friendly.

However, right now I cannot watch Netflix in boxee as it keeps saying the connection speed has dropped, and plays in a stuttered mode - a known issue.

I currently use NetflixTX Desktop - a not too pretty, but functional external app which works with my remote control (somewhat). I got it here http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=348 (yeah sorry Avner)

It does not require installing any other software as it is completely standalone - in fact, it does not really need installing as it runs from a directory. It does need .Net 3.5.... and will be an ok standin until Netflix is 'smooth' in Boxee.

It's interesting, after a chat with the developer, that it uses screen scraping instead of the API.

No speed changes - no stuttering - as it actually opens Netflix's player. I will continue to use it on my office desktop even after the Boxee fix.

l8r

Netguru
February 26th, 2010, 01:19 PM
The Netflix app works pretty well with my Netflix account. The only bug that I noticed is sometimes the picture stops moving while the sound track is still working. After about 30 seconds of that, it boots me out of the show I was watching. All I have to do at that time is hit play and it picks back up where it left off. As a matter of fact, its the only thing that seems to work for me within Boxee. I can't seem to get youtube or Hulu to work at all. It tells me that I need Flash installed (its installed on my machine). I haven't checked the threads for this yet because I just signed up with Boxee Forums today. I assume that it's Hulu that doesn't allow Boxee to wok with their system. Doesn't really matter anyways because once Comcast is allowed to buy NBC, they will shut the service down. :(

naviscan2
February 28th, 2010, 01:38 PM
I am using Boxee 'beta 0.9.20.107xxx' just released on Feb. 2010.
My HTPC rig is setup in Vista Ult.x64 to date, IE8 in x64, AMD dual core and 4GB PC2 1333MHz RAM, with a nVidia GeForce 9500GT sending HDMI A/V to a Samsung plasma.

Now:

Opening Netflix in Boxee, your software does not put all episodes in sequential order, in a TV/Serial series. Examples:

* In Netflix series "Kidnapped" series are placed in vertical order, but following this route jumps to random order, as in various unrelated, non-sequential episodes, leading to viewer confusion... (there is no numbering or date sequence listed in menu, just a vertical order to be followed).

* Same thing in 'As the world goes by', and other Netflix series, which made me use direct access to Netflix thru IE8, instead.

I chose Boxee for browsing Netflix movies because of your Boxee's excellent interface, video quality (DXVA) and simplicity.

Yet because of the confusion in sequence order of series, I go directly to Netflix interface, instead: what a shame...

What gives?
MMiclos.

darcilicious
February 28th, 2010, 01:53 PM
Known bug in the Netflix app.

http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-4312

snoop
February 28th, 2010, 02:30 PM
i find the boxee netflix quality to be absolute crap. Its very blury and jittery. I have the latest version of boxee and my computer can play netflix perfect via the browser and media center. The problem is islolated with boxee. This makes boxee useless.

triffle
March 1st, 2010, 07:44 PM
Hey Guys,

Just got Netflix up and running two days ago on my HTPC (see specs in signature). My HTPC is connected to my network via wireless G. My wife has been testing for me and she says about 3/4th of time the stream will just stop. It kicks her back to the "play" page. She can click play and it will resume from where the stream stopped. Quality looks good, I would say DVD...

I have only done limited testing on my Win7 Netbook, but I have watched a movie all the way through, quality was good, and the stream did not stop... If I run into further issues with Netflix on the Netbook I will post...

sheanon
March 21st, 2010, 01:43 PM
I've seen others with similar issues but I thought I should still post what is happening to me.

Boxee was originally working in Alpha version just fine.
Then I upgraded to Beta latest and though I can access the Netflix app and seem my queue etc..., I get a blue screen of death that says something like:

Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
Parity Chec / Memory Parity Error
** The system has halted ***

Sometimes it says it right before the video plays, sometimes the video plays for 5 seconds and I get this.

Going back to Alpha it works, and it also works in FF browser. I have the latest Silverlight installed.

I really like the new beta interface, but not happy to have lost Netflix.

I tried removing boxee entirely and deleting and reauthorizing my account but it did not help.

I have 2 other machines and boxee beta works fine with Netflix on them. It's only my Shuttle X100 HTPC that has this blue screen error. I have done hardware memory and disk diagnostics. They come up fine.

The video card on the X100 is ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400, and I have the latest drivers for that.

Anyone have similar issues. Boxee pls advise

darcilicious
March 21st, 2010, 02:03 PM
Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
Parity Chec / Memory Parity Error
** The system has halted ***


Your computer has a hardware failure (per the error message you posted). In fact, it looks like a memory failure (again, from the error message you posted).

You need to download and run a memory check / diagnostic tool to determine what's going on. It's just your bad luck that the new version of Boxee is accessing that bit of bad of memory when running Netflix.

sheanon
March 21st, 2010, 03:16 PM
You need to download and run a memory check / diagnostic tool to determine what's going on.

that's what I thought. But I ran Memtest86+ and everything tested fine I ran it on like over 10 tests or something.

I'm just wondering from boxee what may have changed since it was working well in alpha, and it works on my browser

darcilicious
March 21st, 2010, 03:20 PM
I'm just wondering from boxee what may have changed

Almost everything -- beta was almost entirely re-developed from the ground up.

Memory access is a strange thing; unless the error message is way off for some bizarre reason. You should be able to enable mindumps for blue screen of deaths and ask for help from one of the various Windows forums in gleaming the info from it...

sheanon
March 22nd, 2010, 04:40 PM
So just wanted to followup. I did a fresh install of Windows XP SP3 and it's working fine now. That fixed it. Guess it wasn't a hardware thing.

One difference was I didn't have SP3 installed before. don't know if that was related.

Anyway happy it works. But unfortunately I agree with others, the quality is pretty bad for Netflix vs. my browser

jcarlock
April 6th, 2010, 10:40 AM
The Netflix app works pretty well with my Netflix account. The only bug that I noticed is sometimes the picture stops moving while the sound track is still working. After about 30 seconds of that, it boots me out of the show I was watching. All I have to do at that time is hit play and it picks back up where it left off. As a matter of fact, its the only thing that seems to work for me within Boxee. I can't seem to get youtube or Hulu to work at all. It tells me that I need Flash installed (its installed on my machine). I haven't checked the threads for this yet because I just signed up with Boxee Forums today. I assume that it's Hulu that doesn't allow Boxee to wok with their system. Doesn't really matter anyways because once Comcast is allowed to buy NBC, they will shut the service down. :(

I have been experiencing this exact same problem. I've even had it crash my VPU when I try to continue to watch the video again. No issues watching anything else, or even netflix through a browser...

FYI its Request 13027

nathanielhieter
April 28th, 2010, 09:59 AM
My apologies, but I posted the following in its own thread. Repeating here...

================================================== =====

While the "instant queue" is handy because I can populate it away from the TV, I still find myself using "Search" within the Netflix App. While I do have a nice cidenko wireless keyboard that I am comfortable using, the bottom line is that for the rest of the family exclusively uses the remote. If it cannot be done with the remote (or it is too painful) then it just isn't done.

Using the on-screen keyboard currently sits in the "too painful" category.

The list of available content for "instant play" is constantly changing, which means that search results are constantly changing. It is insufficient to simply search once and populate the instant-queue. This is especially true for TV shows.

A feature to save search strings would be a HUGE usability improvement for my family. I don't know how much of the Netflix App is server side vs client side, so it may simply be impossible. But if it IS possible, this feature alone would probably tip the balance between the use of TiVo vs Boxee for my family.

capucci
April 29th, 2010, 03:59 PM
Netflix is working on my Boxee but the video is a bit jerky. The audio does seem smooth though. I am on Windows XP SP3 with 2.53GHz and 3GB RAM. Are there any settings that I should try changing?

I use Boxee for MLB.TV too (1000% better than the piece of crap that MLB.com offers), and the video is smooth with that.

Thanks,

Justin

craigstickler
April 29th, 2010, 07:02 PM
I compared the same TV episode on Netflix/Boxee vs. Netflix/XBOX360.

They both seem to have the same pixel resolution when set to 'native' or 'original size' but the -compression- from the Boxee stream is so severe that it makes the video look very bad compared to the 360. The difference was so extreme, I thought that I was looking at 2 different resolutions - not so. They are the same size although the Boxee stream is almost unwatchable by comparison.

That said - The video plays consistently and smoothly. I don't seem to be having the jittery issues seen by others.



>>>>>>>Question: Will the BoxeeBox fix this?
Will the chip in the BB allow for video to be delivered at the same Netflix 'beautiful' quality as I see on my XBOX360?

My hardware:
8-core Intel
6GB ram
12MB fiber internet connection
Boxee SW v.09.21.11497

riothamus.pendragon
May 4th, 2010, 08:17 PM
The only bug that I noticed is sometimes the picture stops moving while the sound track is still working. After about 30 seconds of that, it boots me out of the show I was watching. All I have to do at that time is hit play and it picks back up where it left off.

This is my exact problem. The quality seems to be the same as through IE, it just randomly boots back to the netflix ap. Any fix?

Riothamus

dhotiram
May 6th, 2010, 02:20 PM
how secured is the netflix account information when entered in boxee portal. can someone steal my username and password and use my netflix account ?

LPBassman
May 22nd, 2010, 07:38 AM
I have access to Netflix four different ways.

XBox 360 - excellent quality
Windows 7 Media Center - about the same as XBox 360
Streamed through PlayOn to WDTV Live - Quality not as good as either of the two MS solutions
Boxee - Similar quality to PlayOn through WDTV Live

Is there an explanation as to why there is a quality difference between them? I suspect it is in the transcoding engine, but I'm not sure.

brainbone
May 31st, 2010, 10:17 AM
Is there an explanation as to why there is a quality difference between them? I suspect it is in the transcoding engine, but I'm not sure.

As far as I known (I haven't tested Boxee in a while, so this could have changed), Boxee renders the netflix movie in a smaller (hidden) window, and then re-samples and stretches the result to your full screen. This is similar to what playon does, sans the re-encoding.

The problem is that the smaller, hidden, rendering is usually a lower resolution than the stream can actually represent. Add to this that the re-sampling and re-rendering further reduces quality (and consumes additional CPU/GPU resources), and you end up with a lower quality result. In addition, now that netflix is streaming HD to PC clients, the potential quality loss is substantially higher.

What should Boxee be doing? Letting the Netflix silverlight player render directly to your screen (again, I haven't tested in awhile, so maybe this has changed -- but I doubt it.) Why aren't they doing this? I have no idea. Boxee is a netflix branded partner, and has full access to the netflix branded player, just like Microsoft has with WMC. I think there is simply a failure of imagination on Boxee's part.

judgeschambers
May 31st, 2010, 11:09 AM
I think there is simply a failure of imagination on Boxee's part.

I thought we went through this bash session already? :confused:

No, nothing has changed (that we know of) and don't know what the dev's plans are at this point. It appears boxee is using Flash to render Netflix. Which is boggling the Smods at this point as we've heard nothing about a change or if this was all along. :confused:

XBox 360 - excellent quali

Is there an explanation as to why there is a quality difference between them? I suspect it is in the transcoding engine, but I'm not sure.

What Brainbone failed to elaborate on is, the Xbox and Roku and Wii(??) all use a proprietary player to handle an HD stream that boxee does not. The latest NF HD offering via silverlight over the past two weeks was implemented after the current boxee build 11487. This new stream is a huge game changer. Aside from boxee's re sampling issues Brainbone mentions, possibly in the future the devs can make changes to the Boxee player to better leverage this new NF HD stream. I'm sure they're scratching their heads right about now. ;)

Lastly, many are getting less than perfect streams via IE or FFOx even while adjusting the bitrate in each. It seems hit or miss as the Silverlight player tends to play at the same speed as the download bitrate and overruns the buffer causing stutter. Sometimes it auto adjusts and plays smooth at 2600 playback bitrate with a 3800 download bitrate (IF----IF your ISP speed is that good)...other times it never recovers. Then toss in any hardware limitations (older or not fast enough systems & vid cards) and more potential stuttering issues will occur. I think NF and the silverlight boys have some work yet to do to tweak it's playback performance.

.

brainbone
May 31st, 2010, 05:24 PM
It appears boxee is using Flash to render Netflix.

Boxee does not use Flash to render Netflix -- it uses silverlight.

Boxee is also a Netflix branded partner -- this gives Boxee access to a specialized silverlight player that Netflix will help integrate into your application (see W7MC) -- why Boxee has not leveraged this yet is beyond me.

What Brainbone failed to elaborate on is, the Xbox and Roku and Wii(??) all use a proprietary player to handle an HD stream that boxee does not.

There is nothing I failed to mention. The silverlight (browser based) player is now handling HD (as of ~May 15th) in both W7MC and in IE. Boxee uses this same player -- but, for a yet unknown reason, re-renders the stream in the way I described above, making it impossible for Boxee to handle Netflix HD content. I'm sorry of this sounds like a "bash session", but it is simply the facts.

Those that are having issues with Netflix HD in silverlight are generally running XP, have Aero disabled in vista/7 (and as a result, no hardware acceleration) or have CPU and/or GPU limitations. The difference between this and Boxee's issues, is that Boxee issue is a design problem -- it simply isn't currently designed to handle HD (or SD for that matter) content from Netflix. The Netflix HD on PC issue is a target platform issue. (Some PCs simply don't have enough oomph to decode the h264 HD content so netflix will need to find a way of detecting this and automatically limiting the bit-rate of the stream sent.) Netflix/Silverlight is currently on the correct path for accomplishing quality playback of Netflix content on the PC. Boxee has yet to show that it's moving in such a direction (specifically related to Netflix content.)

Again -- no bash intended. Simply factual observations.

judgeschambers
May 31st, 2010, 08:25 PM
We went through this MULTIPLE threads in April already. You did this in every post you could spit it out. You never did provide that coding and procedure proposal I asked you for. :rolleyes: Maybe then you could talk to the devs' directly and get your answers.

And yes, you did fail to acknowledge that NF just changed their stream for PC and Mac, which was after the last boxee 11487 release. So, boxee can't deal with this change until the next release at the earliest.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=91503&postcount=23

Follow the advice I gave you in the link above. Or I see strike 3 coming ...

brainbone
May 31st, 2010, 09:40 PM
We went through this MULTIPLE threads in April already. You did this in every post you could spit it out. You never did provide that coding and procedure proposal I asked you for. :rolleyes: Maybe then you could talk to the devs' directly and get your answers.

All I'm doing is stating a factual answer to a valid question. Since no one else was willing to answer, I did.

For Hulu, I provide a proof of concept a long time ago here:
http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?p=91363#post91363

Note that with recent changes to hulu, my isolation method should no longer be necessary -- but it is still relevant to other flash video sources.

For Netflix there is no need for me to provide code. Boxee developers, along with aid from Netflix, should be perfectly capable on instituting the changes needed. If Boxee wants my help, they can contact me.

And yes, you did fail to acknowledge that NF just changed their stream for PC and Mac, which was after the last boxee 11487 release. So, boxee can't deal with this change until the next release at the earliest.

HD has no real bearing on my original answer. It is a fact that Boxee is not able to deliver the full quality of an SD Netflix stream. HD only re-enforces the point. Boxee's current method for delivering Netflix content will not scale to HD content in Windows, unless you throw some serious hardware (CPU/GPU) at it. This is a fact. I am guessing that the temporary work-around will be for Boxee to force a lower bitrate stream. To support HD Netflix in windows, Boxee will need to implement the changes I've been suggesting for some time.


http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=91503&postcount=23

Follow the advice I gave you in the link above. Or I see strike 3 coming ...

I am not making any of this "my agenda". This thread is related to Netflix. I answered a valid question on the quality Netflix with well known facts. I am only on the defensive now because you are challenging the facts of the situation.

judgeschambers
May 31st, 2010, 09:44 PM
Ooook.....You ignored the complete facts and inserted your agenda....again.
Then ignored my suggestion to post to your heat's content in a dedicated thread.
Strike 3.

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July 16th, 2010, 03:36 AM
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elizabethpoole
July 20th, 2010, 11:16 PM
Just signed up for Boxee with Netflix. Everything went according to plan except I can't download silverlight.net. Error message says I'm not connected to internet every time I've tried the download.......what am I doing wrong? Help please!

gmd024
July 21st, 2010, 10:24 AM
Just signed up for Boxee with Netflix. Everything went according to plan except I can't download silverlight.net. Error message says I'm not connected to internet every time I've tried the download.......what am I doing wrong? Help please!

Try running Microsoft/Windows Update mannually and see if it lists Silverlight as an update and try to install it from there -- Silverlight 4 installed from here for me a couple of months ago - (But I did not try installing it manually, so I did not get the 'not connected' error message)

If you still have issues - try the Silverlight forum for help

dadein
July 21st, 2010, 11:08 AM
Or try this - http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/get-started/install/default.aspx

The_Dress_Specialist
August 29th, 2010, 07:15 AM
It worked for me as well.

Stacy McOwen
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graesen
September 12th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Forgive me if this was covered already... Haven't been here in a long time (new work schedule keeping me from my much missed Boxee). But I have been using it again lately.

Any possibility to add sub-genres to the netflix app? My biggest gripe is when I go to comedy, most of what comes up are stand-up comedy specials and I just want to browse the comedy movies.

newboxeeuser
November 9th, 2010, 12:24 PM
Since the new beta build has come out in late October, has anyone had issues with Netflix on Windows 7 playing SD streams in horrible quality compared to your browsers ? Also every few minutes it says "your connection has slowed" and the re-buffer takes for ever ? I posted details in the Beta Build issue forum (not hardware/ other software issue, its a Boxee issue) wondering if its just Windows 7 latest Boxee build though.

newboxeeuser
November 9th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Mea culpa ! I re-read the FAQ for stuttering/bad video and this part "DPI & Font settings in excess of 100% may cause video to skip & lag. Also, this will cause the video to be cut off at the bottom and/or top. " fixed the Netflix quality issue and network slowness message for me. I'll post my correction in bug forum and remove bug from Jira. Works great so far.

droganto
November 15th, 2010, 10:06 AM
I just joined Boxee and event that I like the interface I do experience a lot of lagging on my online videos, eithyer selectec under Movie Library or Netflix in particular. If I go directly online using IE videos work fine.

Since this is a Netflix thread, then I will like to get a solution for that App. Yes not all my Instant Media show up, and I have the video lagging and the "your network speed has changed" every 2 or 3 minutes of playing.

Hardware of the PC is more than optimized, so I know is Boxee. Thanks!

EpcH
November 24th, 2010, 09:58 PM
Netflix on Boxee is as mentioned not good at all. Most the devices in my home entertaintment setup is hooked up to netflix ( Samsung Bluray player, TV, Tivo HD , wii , you name it...) , and I can confirm that the quality of the stream is considerably lower than of these other devices.

But the Boxee interface is promising if the video quality issues is solved, will probably be the winner in all.

griffindodd
December 1st, 2010, 03:30 PM
Windows 7 32 bit here also suffering from the 'Your connection has slowed' message which results in a terrible quality stream. I know it's not a bandwidth issue because the same content streams fine in full resolution from the Netflix web site.

BonzTM
December 6th, 2010, 09:14 AM
I have no problem with Netflix working, but it does not list TV Series in the correct order. It just seems to be random.

And when I'm watching a TV series straight through, I don't know which is next. Usually I'll just watch in-browser. For movies on Netflix, I have no problem using Boxee.

mkkohls
December 12th, 2010, 06:48 PM
I have no problem with Netflix working, but it does not list TV Series in the correct order. It just seems to be random.

And when I'm watching a TV series straight through, I don't know which is next. Usually I'll just watch in-browser. For movies on Netflix, I have no problem using Boxee.

Same here this is a real problem

Deihmos
December 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
I found netflix on Boxee to be terrible. The interface is ugly and many of the shows that can be streamed or in my queue don't show up any episodes. Windows Media Center in comparison has a beautiful and well designed Netflix plugin.

mrsampson
December 15th, 2010, 11:42 AM
please advise on how to transfer netflix to boxee from my computer.

netflix tells me the transfer was successful but boxee does not show it on TV.

where would netflix show itself in boxee-apps ?files?

Thanks for your advice on this , if possible.

Mike

P.S. I use windows 7 x64

gmd024
December 15th, 2010, 11:47 AM
please advise on how to transfer netflix to boxee from my computer.

netflix tells me the transfer was successful but boxee does not show it on TV.

where would netflix show itself in boxee-apps ?files?

Thanks for your advice on this , if possible.

Mike

P.S. I use windows 7 x64

It's in the app library in the Boxee beta software app - use the search box

geminicode
December 27th, 2010, 11:24 AM
Check out this post. It fixed my issue with Netflix.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=24522

obidamnkenobi
January 4th, 2011, 10:08 AM
Same here this is a real problem

yeah, after I got Netflix on my PS3 I've stopped using it on Boxee. The Boxee interface is simply to ugly, and buggy.


TV shows in random order (serious, how hard is this??!)
When going 'back' from a movie to instant que it jumps back to the top. Annoying if the queue is several pages
General "could not load" at random times. Seems to often happen on the "suggestions" tab
Also if my PC goes to sleep while in the Netflix app it has had issues waking properly, but that could be a problem on my end.

lament
January 4th, 2011, 01:09 PM
yeah, after I got Netflix on my PS3 I've stopped using it on Boxee. The Boxee interface is simply to ugly, and buggy.


TV shows in random order (serious, how hard is this??!)
When going 'back' from a movie to instant que it jumps back to the top. Annoying if the queue is several pages
General "could not load" at random times. Seems to often happen on the "suggestions" tab
Also if my PC goes to sleep while in the Netflix app it has had issues waking properly, but that could be a problem on my end.

Hopefully the redesigned app for the Boxee Box will fix these issues. I'm pretty happy with my PS3 Netflix as well.

MYYZTIK
January 5th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Netflix doesnt work at all just hangs on connecting to netflix server... horrible.

I was hoping better for this but with playon tv and my ps3 I get way more content and alot better quality video.

gmd024
January 6th, 2011, 08:26 AM
Netflix doesnt work at all just hangs on connecting to netflix server... horrible.

I was hoping better for this but with playon tv and my ps3 I get way more content and alot better quality video.

Agreed, Netflix needs some work - and Boxee is aware, and I believe it will happen, but there's no time table set

You mentioned PlayOn - I use too - it's a nice addition to Boxee or any UPnP enabled media player you use it on

Just FYI - you can use PlayOn in the Boxee beta app (and the BBox also)

clickykbd
January 17th, 2011, 04:22 PM
I've had boxee account forever but just starting to take it seriously. Happy to see Netflix App but noticed the following:

Quality seems lower than on the same display (a 1440x900 monitor) running netflix in browser (usually use Chrome for netflix), not sure, but I might be getting 1080p at times from netflix, and boxee/netflix is doing something less?

Star ratings seem finicky... things I've rated do not indicate so in the thumbnails interface. Rating values seem to be off (as in most of them do not change) until I click to the movie info screen.

Rating a movie shows a red box (regardless of current ratings)... unselected stars are transparent at first it seems. You don't see them until you hover/move. Re-rating a movie does not show current rating... you get the unrated red box again.

Want more browsing mechanisms... such as web functionality of clicking on directors or actors etc. Even searching working for these would be nice, but may be a netflix api issue.

In it's current state, I would opt to flip over to windows/browser, or use my new ATV (on it's way) when watching netflix. In fact, the browser may beat ATV too in quality, which is unfortunate.

A netflix partner would be ideal, cause I wouldn't mind merging my netflix cue and my boxee cue, provided they would stay in sync if I watch/rate/add/remove stuff on other devices. But the app is a great start.

I look forward to improvements!

pkohler01
January 18th, 2011, 12:43 AM
Netflix generally works for me on a Windows 7 box but, I find I have problems wIth it if I leave Boxee running overnight. If i go to sleep watching a film on netflix and leave that pc on all day running boxee, netflix will no longerr work. Specifically, it will load but no videos will show up anywhere in the netflix app. Restarting boxee doesnt fix this and neither does ipconfig /renew. I have to restart the box for it to work again. This is a clean win7 install with nothing else except firefox and the flash plugin installed.

jstaffon
January 23rd, 2011, 10:41 AM
As mentioned above, I've had a Boxee account and installed for a few years now. I was originally running in linux but found out that Netflix and VuDu were not setup yet for linux. I installed it on a Windows 7 box but noticed the video is very choppy....actually it looks more like a slide show. When I first started up Netflix, it said Silverlight needed to be installed on the host computer. I've since done that. It seems like there has been Netflix issues dating back to 2008. I gather that some people have had success. Does anyone have any suggestions?
jeff.

slickjer
February 15th, 2011, 06:03 AM
First, thanks for the fantastic work! I switched from XBMC to Boxee today because I saw a news feed that said you guys added netflix support. :)

Here's my take:
Browsing videos/movies seems to work fairly well for the most part, though episode numbers and/or logical sorting by episode number should be added (if possible) in the next update.

Watching the movies results in distractingly poor quality. The netflix loading screen (after you hit play, before the show starts) appears to be zoomed almost to an extreme. Instead of a smooth gradient on the red areas, there are lots of little red boxes of different shades. This gets much more noticeable during actual movie playback.

My receiver is showing that it isn't getting a surround stream, and plays the audio in stereo. When I watch netflix in IE on the same machine it shows as having a 5.1 stream.

In case it'll help in some way, here's my setup:

CASE SILVERSTONE| HTPC GD04B RT
MB FOXCONN A88GMV 880G AM3 R
PSU SPARKLE|ATX-350PN-B204 350W
CPU AMD|PH II X2 555 3.2G AM3 RT
MEM 2Gx2|GEIL GVP34GB1333C9DC RT
HD 160G|WD 7K 8M SATA2 WD1600AAJS
WL ADAPTER TP-LINK|TL-WN722N R
(If you need a solid HTPC for just shy of $400, it seems to be a great build so far.)

HDMI to a 42" 1080p Vizio TV. Resolution is set to the same.
Optical out from TV to ac3/dts capable receiver.
Network connection is a constant 40mbps (without bursting).

Again, great work. This is a HUGE step in the right direction. :)

darcilicious
February 15th, 2011, 11:17 AM
Well... Boxee the software has had Netflix for a year now :) The "big news" for Netflix on the Boxee Box :)

Quality limitations may be due to the way the app has been implemented for Windows and OS X. You should be able to get HD (720p) picture, not sure about sound.

1080pee
February 16th, 2011, 01:27 PM
First, thanks for the fantastic work! I switched from XBMC to Boxee today because I saw a news feed that said you guys added netflix support. :)

Like you, I have been trying to justify replacing XBMC with Boxee - but I keep going back. Netflix on Boxee is a joke - have yet to get one video to stream...not even once! On top of that XBMC does a much better job at displaying your media and scraping movie/tv info.

I keep on coming back to boxee every other month in hopes to see it surpass XBMC but it has not happened yet...hopefully some day though.

sleepytime28
February 20th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Like you, I have been trying to justify replacing XBMC with Boxee - but I keep going back. Netflix on Boxee is a joke - have yet to get one video to stream...not even once! On top of that XBMC does a much better job at displaying your media and scraping movie/tv info.

I keep on coming back to boxee every other month in hopes to see it surpass XBMC but it has not happened yet...hopefully some day though.

I got it to work for one night so far. Its very hit and miss. I'm 98 percent sure the problem is not on my end. Netflix works fine on all my other devices. Sure would love to see this app working appropriately. It will not pull my recommendations, my instant queue or new arrivals. The only thing I can do is browse Genre. But even then when I select a movie it will not play. Not sure where everything is going wrong. Please if there are any fixes send me to them. I have searched everywhere.:confused:

thusband
February 25th, 2011, 09:59 PM
Glad to see Netflix on Boxee but it's unwatchable. The picture resolution is terrible and when I watched the first time the sound wasn't synced.

In fact picture quality in general for everything I've watched on Boxee is sub par.

Picture quality for Netflix is much better on Windows Media Center but the best is Roku. I might have to hook that up again.

darcilicious
February 25th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Are you talking about the Boxee Box or Boxee software on Windows...? If the Box, complain to Netflix, they control which streams various devices get...

thusband
February 25th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Are you talking about the Boxee Box or Boxee software on Windows...? If the Box, complain to Netflix, they control which streams various devices get...
Boxee software through Windows 7 Media Center. I have plenty of bandwidth so that isn't it.

darind
March 10th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Netflix works great on the Boxee Box...in windows doesn't work at all. I just get a message: "connecting to the netflix server".

darcilicious
March 10th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Try completely disconnecting the Netflix service at boxee.tv and then reconnecting it. If that fails, try a clean install of Boxee.

(I just started up Boxee on my computer and played a movie in Netflix, no problem; note also that the windows app is totally different than the Boxee Box version)

gizmo3141
March 21st, 2011, 08:25 PM
Still doesn't appear to be working in Canada though. Weird. Guess it's still going to netflix.com and not netflix.ca to authorize the account....just get a screen saying that the movie is loading...forever...

darcilicious
March 21st, 2011, 09:02 PM
From another thread... it turns out that Netflix on Windows is not supported in Canada. I believe it's a licensing issue of some sort.

gizmo3141
March 22nd, 2011, 12:42 AM
disappointing. Is there any news on an update for the windows version? Or has Boxee abandoned those of us who initially supported them? You know, the die hards that put up with all the bugs and helped make them popular in the first place.

I know they're focusing on the box and other embedded applications like televisions right now, but is it going to continue like that forever? Are they ever going to throw us a bone and upgrade the windows app to at least version 1.0?

<is my only choice now to buy the box?

vikingisson
March 23rd, 2011, 09:58 AM
I gave up on Netflix in Canada. Not going to risk buying a box just to find out it doesn't work on that either. Blame whoever you want, it's still a lost sale to both.

darcilicious
March 23rd, 2011, 10:00 AM
The Netflix app and licensing are different between the Box (works in Canada, many folks here are using it) and the OS software (older, buggy app, doesn't work in Canada). Those are the facts. You should base your decision on facts, not assumptions.

Also, you should buy a Box from a retailer with a good return policy (e.g. Amazon has a 30-day return policy) -- very little risk going that route.

vikingisson
March 23rd, 2011, 11:20 AM
oh. I'll just "assume" that the software will never work and that the box "might" work since plenty are using it. But I can't assume that of course, your anecdotal evidence is not quite fact. No, I wanted to see it work on the software before I buy a box, a return policy isn't good enough.

darcilicious
March 23rd, 2011, 11:35 AM
No, I wanted to see it work on the software before I buy a box, a return policy isn't good enough. Then I guess you'd better get a Roku or other device to meet your needs. But then you only have "anecdotal evidence" that Netflix works on Roku since you can't download the Roku Netflix app and run it.

(The fact remains, the new Netflix app on the Boxee Box works in Canada. Boxee has said so, Netflix has said so, and the users from Canada in this forum say so. You can not believe it as you like, but it doesn't change that FACT.)

vikingisson
March 23rd, 2011, 11:59 AM
yeah fine.

gizmo3141
March 23rd, 2011, 12:30 PM
Well, just curious if they're planning to update the app with the box's firmware. I'd actually pay $50 or so for the app. Some software is actually worth paying for like SageTV that I bought and I have yet to regret it....They also have a client box...so there's a choice either buy the app or buy the box...that way Boxee will make more money and the app users will have access to better customer support and regular updates the same as the box...

Just sayin'....

gmd024
March 23rd, 2011, 12:51 PM
Well, just curious if they're planning to update the app with the box's firmware. I'd actually pay $50 or so for the app. Some software is actually worth paying for like SageTV that I bought and I have yet to regret it....They also have a client box...so there's a choice either buy the app or buy the box...that way Boxee will make more money and the app users will have access to better customer support and regular updates the same as the box...

Just sayin'....

Boxee has said they are going to updated the Boxee desktop app - it was hoped to be done in the 1stQ this year but of course that has been pushed out -- my "guess" is next quarter or at least after the Boxee Box sees the 1.1 version release. The Box is a pay for item and the software is free, so I'm sure you can see where their priorieties are

Henpecked
March 26th, 2011, 10:21 AM
I gave up on Netflix in Canada. Not going to risk buying a box just to find out it doesn't work on that either. Blame whoever you want, it's still a lost sale to both.

I bought a boxee box from futureshop...They have one of the best return policies , in case

I've had boxee box for about 2 weeks..it's a keeper

Netflix runs excellent here on Canada...Streams files from my computer via wireless network..
That's all I wanted...This box will not be returned..

Haven't had time to play with the other apps yet..
Quit threatening...either buy or don't...I've been on sites since the beginning of Internet..and I'm really tired of whiners..

Have a nice day

One more thing:

Please let us know if you get the Roku or WD media player to work with Netflix Canada

I already know the answer

vikingisson
March 30th, 2011, 08:35 AM
I bought a boxee box from futureshop...They have one of the best return policies , in case

I've had boxee box for about 2 weeks..it's a keeper

Netflix runs excellent here on Canada...Streams files from my computer via wireless network..
That's all I wanted...This box will not be returned..

Haven't had time to play with the other apps yet..
Quit threatening...either buy or don't...I've been on sites since the beginning of Internet..and I'm really tired of whiners..

Have a nice day

One more thing:

Please let us know if you get the Roku or WD media player to work with Netflix Canada

I already know the answer

Tired of whiners since the beginning of the internet? Then stop responding with whining about whiners. enjoy your box. nobody else cares.

Denny
June 16th, 2011, 07:09 AM
I'm running Boxee thru a Toshiba Satellite laptop with Windows Visa Premium Home Edition (sorry, at work right now so I don't have any specs). Netflix has been constantly "adjusting" for my connection speed, freezing, jumping to the end of the movie or just dropping it altogether and returning to the selection screen.

I'm assuming that I don't have something set properly. What settings should I check - Boxee and/or Windows?

gmd024
June 16th, 2011, 07:24 AM
I'm running Boxee thru a Toshiba Satellite laptop with Windows Visa Premium Home Edition (sorry, at work right now so I don't have any specs). Netflix has been constantly "adjusting" for my connection speed, freezing, jumping to the end of the movie or just dropping it altogether and returning to the selection screen.

I'm assuming that I don't have something set properly. What settings should I check - Boxee and/or Windows?

You haven't given much detail to work with - but the first place you might want to start checking is with your internet downloand speed - compare what speed you are paying for with your actual measured speed - and then check your local network - running on a wired connection would be you're best option - if your connecting via wireless, this may be the cause of you're issue, especially if it's wireless G - wireless N may help - but as mentioned, a wired connection is advisable where possible

Denny
June 16th, 2011, 07:31 AM
You haven't given much detail to work with - but the first place you might want to start checking is with your internet downloand speed - compare what speed you are paying for with your actual measured speed - and then check your local network - running on a wired connection would be you're best option - if your connecting via wireless, this may be the cause of you're issue, especially if it's wireless G - wireless N may help - but as mentioned, a wired connection is advisable where possible
Using wireless N. Haven't checked the download speed lately. What would be a "preferred" speed? But we're also running Netflix thru our Wii console wirelessly without any problems (Yes, I know it's only 480). That's why I'm assuming that I need to adjust something in Boxee and/or Windows.

Edit: I'll post download speed, computer specs, etc, later when I get home.

gmd024
June 16th, 2011, 07:42 AM
To eliminate wireless as being the cause, if possible, connect via hard wire and then try Netflix again -- if it plays OK with a wired connection, then you know where to narrow down your troubleshooting -- it could be interference - move your laptop around a little - or if you're connecting the laptop using a UBS network adaptor (and not a builtin net. card) use a "short" USB extension cable to move only the USB net. stick around

If you're using the laptops internal wireless card - maybe try/borrow a USB network adaptor and see if this make a difference

Denny
June 16th, 2011, 10:38 AM
To eliminate wireless as being the cause, if possible, connect via hard wire and then try Netflix again -- if it plays OK with a wired connection, then you know where to narrow down your troubleshooting -- it could be interference - move your laptop around a little - or if you're connecting the laptop using a UBS network adaptor (and not a builtin net. card) use a "short" USB extension cable to move only the USB net. stick around

If you're using the laptops internal wireless card - maybe try/borrow a USB network adaptor and see if this make a difference

I'll hardwire the Toshiba tonight and see if that resolves the issue.

Denny
June 16th, 2011, 02:16 PM
Okay, I'm back.

Just tested (wireless) download speed at http://www.speedtest.net/.

Download Speed: 9.86 Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.98 Mbps
Ping: 20 ms

System Specs
Manufacturer: Toshiba
Model: Satellite A205
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron CPU 540 @ 1.86GHZ 1.86 GHz
RAM: 2.00 GB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System

Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium, Service Pack 2

ISP: Brighthouse Networks (Time Warner)
Modem: Arris Model TM402G/110
Wireless Router: Netgear RangeMax Wireless-N 150 Router WPN824N

Just tried jacking the computer directly into the back of the router for a hardwired line. Improved a LOT. There still was some jerkiness at the beginning, but it seemed to smooth out as the movie played (Star Trek).

I then unplugged the hardwire and restarted the movie. Started out VERY jerky, but smoothed out a bit as it played. Still a lot more jerky than with the hardwire.

This is a re-install of the Boxee software. I had a small problem with a line of script (about memory usage, etc) appearing across the top of Boxee all the time. Un-installing and re-installing the Boxee software solved that problem.

darcilicious
June 16th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron CPU 540 @ 1.86GHZ 1.86 GHzAt a guess, I'd say that your CPU is fairly underpowered for the Boxee software and that's why playback quality is noticeably lower (especially when compared to what you see in a browser).

Here's the suggested hardware specs:
http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/171685-suggested-hardware

gmd024
June 16th, 2011, 02:29 PM
I'd agree with Darci -- I think your specs just barely make it for minimums - but not for suggested specs... http://support.boxee.tv/entries/171685-suggested-hardware

Denny
June 17th, 2011, 12:13 PM
I'd agree with Darci -- I think your specs just barely make it for minimums - but not for suggested specs... http://support.boxee.tv/entries/171685-suggested-hardware

Nothing I can do to smooth it out any? Can I "turn down" the resolution or refresh rate or anything like that?

Also, if that's the case, why are Acer Revo's touted as good systems to run Boxee on? I was looking to buy one off craigslist (for a boxee build) and I'm told by the seller that the processor speed is only 1.60 Ghz. Isn't that even slower than my Toshiba's 1.86 Ghz? Could I fix the problem by overclocking my processor?

gmd024
June 17th, 2011, 12:46 PM
Nothing I can do to smooth it out any? Can I "turn down" the resolution or refresh rate or anything like that?

Also, if that's the case, why are Acer Revo's touted as good systems to run Boxee on? I was looking to buy one off craigslist (for a boxee build) and I'm told by the seller that the processor speed is only 1.60 Ghz. Isn't that even slower than my Toshiba's 1.86 Ghz? Could I fix the problem by overclocking my processor?

iirc your processor is a single core - and the 'suggested' specs call for a dual core

And the Revo's seem to have mixed results running Boxee - here's an older post about specs needed for Boxee, but most info should still be good... http://forums.boxee.tv/announcement.php?f=8

judgeschambers (here on the forum) has a website and forum that is helpful - paulroberts . com - there's a lot of info concerning the Revo's there

ExplodingLemur
June 17th, 2011, 11:19 PM
I'm having a problem with TV shows in my queue. Episodes are showing up in random order, and for most shows not all the episodes are showing up in the list. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Boxee application, Windows XP machine. This is my first time using Boxee.

darcilicious
June 18th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Yes, all known issues. The Netflix on the boxee software for computers pretty broken and very out date.

ExplodingLemur
June 18th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Yes, all known issues. The Netflix on the boxee software for computers pretty broken and very out date.

Ah, bummer. Is it known if these issues will be fixed in any coming software updates?