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teradome
October 29th, 2008, 08:05 AM
I don't understand why there is no way to also allow access in and out of Front Row while using Boxee on the Mac. Once Boxee is using the Apple Remote, using it ONLY calls up Boxee. Why then isn't there a menu within Boxee that allows us to then launch Front Row so we can watch all of our iTunes content??

agentlame
October 29th, 2008, 08:15 AM
this my not be exactly what you want, but it might help:
http://forum.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=1552&postcount=3

djc3618
October 29th, 2008, 08:17 AM
You just need to change the remote settings to disabled:

Settings -> System -> Remote

perrin21
October 29th, 2008, 09:02 AM
you can call up an application selector by using the application Mira. It works really well for me.

Here is the link http://twistedmelon.com/mira/

teradome
October 29th, 2008, 11:07 AM
You just need to change the remote settings to disabled:

Settings -> System -> Remote

No, not really, unless I'm reading you wrong: I want to be able to use the remote within Boxee, but when hitting menu, launch Front Row. So when I ext FR I'm back within Boxee. It sounds like what you're suggesting is to turn off remote support entirely.

However, that Remote setting might only refer to launching Boxee with the menu key. So if I lauch Boxee manually and leave the remove disabled, does that mean I can still use it within the app but hitting menu will still launch FR?

teradome
October 29th, 2008, 11:08 AM
you can call up an application selector by using the application Mira. It works really well for me.

Here is the link http://twistedmelon.com/mira/

I do have a license for Remote Buddy, I just find that running it makes Front Row options a little clunkier than usual. I'd prefer not running yet another app just to do something this simple.

agentlame
October 29th, 2008, 11:19 AM
No, not really, unless I'm reading you wrong: I want to be able to use the remote within Boxee, but when hitting menu, launch Front Row. So when I ext FR I'm back within Boxee. It sounds like what you're suggesting is to turn off remote support entirely.

However, that Remote setting might only refer to launching Boxee with the menu key. So if I lauch Boxee manually and leave the remove disabled, does that mean I can still use it within the app but hitting menu will still launch FR?

correct... this setting only disables boxee's polling for the menu key. your remote will still function as expected within boxee. :)

teradome
October 29th, 2008, 04:00 PM
correct... this setting only disables boxee's polling for the menu key. your remote will still function as expected within boxee. :)

Meh. How hard could it be to add a menu item that suspends the app and launches Front Row, so we can get at those "protected" files? I really hope this is something they can add.

I've had to reinstall Remote Buddy, but there is a video refresh glitch in Boxee that prevents the RB menu from being completely visible when open. It glitches away while active and can't be seen. :(

snotgiggle
October 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Meh. How hard could it be to add a menu item that suspends the app and launches Front Row, so we can get at those "protected" files? I really hope this is something they can add.

I've had to reinstall Remote Buddy, but there is a video refresh glitch in Boxee that prevents the RB menu from being completely visible when open. It glitches away while active and can't be seen. :(
I must say this sounds pretty cool..picture this....

Without having to even attempt to make Boxee read DRM protected files, Boxee could give me the option to click the Menu button to open up Boxee so that I could watch a podcast. The login window pops up and I select my username, and the next thing that I see is, if I'm on a Mac, an option to load the rest of the way into Boxee OR switch to Front Row. This way, if I start watching something in Boxee and decide I want to watch something in Front Row, I can go back to the beginning of Boxee where I can again choose between Boxee and Front Row. I would be able to leave my computer running Boxee all the time and never have to exit and do some special key combo or download another piece of software in order to make my Apple Remote launch a different program because Front Row would alway be accessible from within Boxee.

PHermas
October 31st, 2008, 05:36 AM
i think this is less of a problem(issue?) with Boxee more than drm in general. it shows us all why it sucks so hard. not really a solution to your problem but begin purchasing your music from drm free stores, like amazon or the fantastic emusic.

teradome
October 31st, 2008, 06:08 PM
Without having to even attempt to make Boxee read DRM protected files...

As an aside, on the Mac it doesn't have to do much -- all it has to do is open the file using QuickTime Player routines. QuickTime Player understands the DRM and will play protected files outside of iTunes.

IMHO Boxee should require QuickTime + Perian on the Mac and not use custom video libraries, but considering the history of the Boxee source I can understand why this isn't currently the case.

agentlame
October 31st, 2008, 09:42 PM
As an aside, on the Mac it doesn't have to do much -- all it has to do is open the file using QuickTime Player routines. QuickTime Player understands the DRM and will play protected files outside of iTunes.

IMHO Boxee should require QuickTime + Perian on the Mac and not use custom video libraries, but considering the history of the Boxee source I can understand why this isn't currently the case.
without being mean... this is by far the worst thing boxee could do.

boxee is cross-platform, oss software. not only would it be a nightmare for the developers to support, there is noway it would be accepted up-stream (xbmc).

this would fracture the code base, and leave boxee's improvements to the core of xbmc out of the main tree. plus it would piss-off the xbmc-team to no end.

this would also put the team in the position of encouraging/supporting drm. again, a support nightmare. but also, it's just not kosher in open-source software; from an idealogical point-of-view.

lastly, it would put a single version of boxee above the other two platforms in terms of importance.

i don't mean to be harsh, i just don't want people entertaining this type of idea.
(in fairness, i have no more right then you to say what boxee should/shouldn't do... i only have hopes.)

teradome
November 1st, 2008, 08:06 AM
without being mean... this is by far the worst thing boxee could do. boxee is cross-platform, oss software....

Right, that's why I said I can understand why it doesn't.

[I personally have a history as a Macintosh developer, not as an open-source one. My POV is that shared code should be shared, but that apps should use native routines as often as possible. In other words, if I was a Mozilla developer, I'd be working on Camino, not Firefox.]

Well, that only just reinforces that Boxee should support switching to Front Row to me. (From an OSS perspective, it could just be a generic application launcher entry that us Mac users can configure to be FR. That way, Windows/Linux users could select whatever *they* want.)

agentlame
November 1st, 2008, 08:34 AM
i agree completely about non-native toolkits. java being the worst offender. plus, they always look ugly.


also, you should know that while boxee doesn't expose this feature, xbmc (boxee's core) does have a facility to launch applications.

if you look in sources.xml you'll see tags for:
<video>
<music>
<pictures>
<programs>

you could post a request: http://forum.boxee.tv/forumdisplay.php?f=12
for the team to expose this functionality... or maybe even hack around with the screen files to add it.

xain09
November 1st, 2008, 12:35 PM
Running Fron Row on top of Boxee would be a very messy and ugly solution to be honets. 2 media center apps running at the same time. Try explaining that to "normal" people. Boxee just needs to do everything Front Row does + more. It already does somethings way better of course ;)

splib
November 19th, 2008, 02:58 AM
Mira works very well for me, and would solve this problem completely.

I have it set up to control boxee and it works faultlessly. If I want to launch frontrow I can hold in the menu button and a dock-like bar pops up on the screen with a choice of apps to launch. Very slick.

mad.macs
March 7th, 2010, 09:36 AM
Has anyone found a way to launch Front Row from inside Boxee, and then have it return to Boxee after exiting Front Row?

The solution I am looking for needs to be in the form of a button or application that can be selected. My Boxee is used by "Non-Techie" types, so anything that would require a Keyboard, or hidden Keystroke combination would be out.

I have pretty well completely switched to Boxee, but need Front Row to play my iTunes content and Photo slideshows. There is just no way I'm going to maintain 2 sets of media libraries....

I'll look into Mira, but I want to keep the number of support applications to a minimum, and it looks like it works more from the Finder which I am trying to avoid going to.

It might be possible with Applescript-is there any way to have an App in Boxee launch an applescript?

I'd prefer to stay in Boxee and not have to switch out to front row at all, I just don't see that Boxee is ever going to have the ability to access shared iTunes/iPhoto content on its own.