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IOIIOOO
November 2nd, 2008, 01:01 PM
Is there some method of designating episode numbers to a video file that is not part of a regular TV season according to TVDB?

For example, the series finale of the show Extras is considered a "Special" by TVDB and not part of season 2, which is likely why Boxee is unable to recognize it.

marcel
November 2nd, 2008, 02:21 PM
how is the format of Extras(final show) at the moment ?does it have an episode number?

IOIIOOO
November 2nd, 2008, 03:00 PM
how is the format of Extras(final show) at the moment ?does it have an episode number?

Extras.Xmas.Special.avi

And in TVDB it's not listed as under either season, just Specials, episode 1.

xain09
November 3rd, 2008, 02:34 AM
I was wondering the same. Also what to do with TV movies that are actually part of TV Series. Take Battlestar Galactica Razor for example? Or the Lost Mobisodes...

marcel
November 3rd, 2008, 03:20 AM
currently we do not support these issues as they will think they are movies rather than tvshows...

IOIIOOO
November 3rd, 2008, 08:04 AM
currently we do not support these issues as they will think they are movies rather than tvshows...

The problem is when it's a special that is not considered a movie. BSG:Razor, for example, was a straight-to-DVD movie, so it shows up in the IMDB as such and gets indexed.

A show like the Extras Xmas Special is only in the TVDB, and as such has no way of being indexed at all, even manually, by Boxee.

Why not allow one to enter S as the season number to match against the TVDB manually if nothing else?

marcel
November 3rd, 2008, 08:15 AM
i agree with you but this however 99% of the time the tvshows follow the format of series and episodes ..maybe we should modify the database of tvbd :)

IOIIOOO
November 3rd, 2008, 09:08 AM
i agree with you but this however 99% of the time the tvshows follow the format of series and episodes ..maybe we should modify the database of tvbd :)

I guess I don't see how TVDB could be updated to fix this. A "special" episode isn't part of a regular season, so putting it in one would be inaccurate.

xain09
November 3rd, 2008, 11:30 AM
MMM... i'll try to get these specials recognized as movies. We can always browse them via our sources of course ;)

Edit: extras special = extras 03x00 (according to imdb)

Arno
November 27th, 2008, 07:31 AM
I agree with Marcel, that an update of the tvdb would be easiest, but since that is pretty much outside our influence, it may be possible to mark specials without episodenumbers in a special way, including episode name in the filename and get them recognized that way?

I have this issue with Mythbusters specials: they are marked as "specials" in a certain season, and do not get an episodenumber assigned. If you look at season 6 for example: http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=season&seriesid=73388&seasonid=29482&lid=7

Would it be possible to recognize the specials in this season when the files are named with an S at the position of the episodenumber:
Mythbusters.s06eS.Viewer.Special
Mythbusters.s06eS.Supersized.Myths
Mythbusters.s06eS.Mythbusters.Young.Scientists.Spe cial
Mythbusters.s06eS.Common.Car.Myths

Would that be a workable solution?

jamesfoster
November 28th, 2008, 06:54 AM
Lol, I had a problem with Extras, but in a different way... I had this structure...

/TV/Avatar - The Last Air Bender/Season 1/1x[Ep No.] - [Title].avi
/TV/Avatar - The Last Air Bender/Season 2/2x[Ep No.] - [Title].avi
/TV/Avatar - The Last Air Bender/Season 3/3x[Ep No.] - [Title].avi
/TV/Avatar - The Last Air Bender/Extras/[Title].avi

The Extras folder was full of interviews and behind the scenes etc. But Boxee recognised them as the Extras TV series.

It would have been nice to see them when browsing the seasons of Avatar, just like how the directories are structured!!!

pax85
November 30th, 2008, 05:22 PM
Ah crap.
Because of this thread I tried boxee to recognize the Heroes S03E00 Special. So I typed in Heroes,3,1 (i believe) and Boxee asked if I want to run this on the complete folder and I said yes for no reason :).
Well now comes the bad part. Now when I browse my heroes season 3 folder I have all episodes listed 2 times.
How do I get rid of this again? :D

Genjoke
December 2nd, 2008, 07:24 AM
I think Boxee should have a "Manual Meta Tag" Option, where on cases like this, one could enter the data manually and classify the episode as he/she prefers:

Season X episode 0
Season X.5 episode 1
Season X episode Y.5, and so on


I am saying it all the time: leave an OPTION for manual tagging.

cubsfan61
December 4th, 2008, 08:18 AM
I think Boxee should have a "Manual Meta Tag" Option, where on cases like this, one could enter the data manually and classify the episode as he/she prefers:

Season X episode 0
Season X.5 episode 1
Season X episode Y.5, and so on


I am saying it all the time: leave an OPTION for manual tagging.

Agreed. The tv movie 24 Redemption (prelude to season 7) showed up on the torrents as S07E00. It would be nice if this could be captured as the first episode in Season 7 for 24.

pax85
December 4th, 2008, 11:25 AM
I got Boxee to recognize my TV Special for Heroes Season 3.
Just check on www.thetvdb.com for your special. It should be listed under Season 0. If it is, just rename the file tvshow.s00eXX.EXT
XX for episode number listed on thetvdb.com

dcist
December 4th, 2008, 11:36 AM
This is the same way the specials are handled under XBMC and Plex. Specials are all listed under "Season 0" on theTVDB.com.

iBeech
December 29th, 2008, 04:43 AM
I guess I don't see how TVDB could be updated to fix this. A "special" episode isn't part of a regular season, so putting it in one would be inaccurate.

You are right. A special isnt part of a standard season... Thats why they are Season 0!

e.g. Futurama has several movie episodes. these have been entered into the database as season 0.

e.g.

you have 'Benders Big Score.avi' in your futurama folder. In order for boxee to pick it up you need to change the name of the file to:

'S00E01 Benders Big Score.avi'

There is a little manual work here, of looking up the episode number on the TVDB.com and changing the filename, but as it's only 1% of TV shows (i would argue less) I think this is fine.

Also, if there is a special you cannot see, TheTVDB.com is an open database driven by the community. Just add your special episode to the DB!

All the Boxee team need to do is to rename 'Season 0' to 'Specials' in the UI

chezzo
January 6th, 2009, 08:19 AM
e.g. Futurama has several movie episodes. these have been entered into the database as season 0.

not on the page I'm looking at! http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=73871&lid=7

they seem to be in a season called "Specials"... or will boxee still recognise this as season 0?

iBeech
January 6th, 2009, 08:27 AM
TheTVDB displays these as 'Specials' just as Boxee should. They are stored as season 0 in the tvdb database.

Gamester17
January 7th, 2009, 08:53 AM
XBMC (http://xbmc.org) and TheTVDB.com (http://www.thetvdb.com) already supports TV Show specials via "Season 0" (Season 'Zero') using the same naming standard as normal, see the specific TV Shows on TheTVDB.com (http://www.thetvdb.com) for more information about the episodes, for example look up "MythBusters and you will see specials and number of the episode you want.

Gamester17
January 7th, 2009, 08:59 AM
XBMC (http://xbmc.org) and TheTVDB.com (http://www.thetvdb.com) already supports TV Show specials via "Season 0" (Season 'Zero') using the same naming standard as normal, see the specific TV Shows on TheTVDB.com (http://www.thetvdb.com) for more information about the episodes, for example look up "MythBusters and you will see specials and number of the episode you want.

DGMurdockIII
January 7th, 2009, 08:17 PM
doctor who special

cwharland
January 9th, 2009, 07:01 PM
This doesn't seem to be working for me with a few Battlestar Galactica Webisodes. TheTVDB indicates that they are special episodes 9 through 18:

http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=season&seriesid=73545&seasonid=5950&lid=7

However, I have named them all:
Battlestar Galactica 0x09
Battlestar Galactica 0x10
and so on.

Boxee doesn't seem to want to recognize them. I've also tried the S00E09 syntax and that's not taking. If I try to manual enter the name in boxee with:

battlestar galactica,0,09

Boxee asks me if I want to apply this rule to all of the episodes in the folder and I thought I had it. But select yes does nothing. the episodes don't show up in the TV Shows section and restarting Boxee shows them simply unresolved again.

Am I missing something super simple here?

apiontek
January 29th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Boxee doesn't seem to want to recognize them. I've also tried the S00E09 syntax and that's not taking. If I try to manual enter the name in boxee with:

battlestar galactica,0,09

Boxee asks me if I want to apply this rule to all of the episodes in the folder and I thought I had it. But select yes does nothing. the episodes don't show up in the TV Shows section and restarting Boxee shows them simply unresolved again.

Am I missing something super simple here?

I am having a similar issue with the Doctor Who (2005) specials - I put them in as Season 0, but it keeps thinking they belong to Doctor Who ... meaning the classic series, not (2005) - and thus misplacing and misnaming them as classic series specials.

I keep trying to move the files around or name them back and forth or use the "wrong movie" feature in Boxee, and nothing fixes it.

jamesfoster
January 30th, 2009, 04:08 AM
I got the new Doctor Who to recognise separately from the original series.

I've named the originals

Doctor Who/Doctor Who - SxEE.avi

and the new ones

Doctor Who 2005/Doctor Who 2005 - SxEE.avi

no brackets around 2005! perhaps removing the brackets will work in other cases as well?

jamesfoster
May 7th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Moderators... Clean up in aisle 3.

Thank you