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droolworthiness
January 30th, 2010, 09:45 PM
Will we be able to run XBMC straight up on the Boxee Box without needing to login and share all that media information with Boxee and D-Link? Ie, turn the Boxee Box into a dedicated XBMC Box?
Also will it be possible to buy the remote seperately?

marcel
January 31st, 2010, 03:31 AM
It will be a Boxee box ... and you will be able to buy the remote separately..

dslate69
February 1st, 2010, 06:20 PM
Will we be able to run XBMC straight up on the Boxee Box without needing to login and share all that media information with Boxee and D-Link? Ie, turn the Boxee Box into a dedicated XBMC Box?
Also will it be possible to buy the remote seperately?

Short answer is "yes".
The Boxee Team is pushing the Boxee Box as "hacker friendly" (the SD card slot was pointed out as proof of that by Avner). It may take a few weeks or months but it will happen I am sure.
Proof: http://revision3.com/hak5/ces2010-part1

HwyXingFrog
November 16th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Anyone have any updates on XBMC on the Boxee Box.

I won't be buying one until I KNOW that it can be done, and is a simple enough process, like running it off a USB stick.

cmglassmire
November 16th, 2010, 03:43 PM
theres a few threads running on it over at XBMC. im really excited for it. its my most wanted feature for sure.

pcgizzmo
November 16th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Please excuse my ignorance but never running XBMC what would be the difference from running XBMC on the Boxee Box and the current software assuming all bugs are worked out and all wanted features are added? Isn't XBMC a media center just like Boxee Box?

What can you do w/XBMC that you can't w/the Boxee?

NoPantsJim
November 16th, 2010, 08:31 PM
XBMC is just far superior for those of us with large local media libraries. It offers more in the way of visual customization through skins and allowing control over thumbnails and fanart rather than a locked down system like Boxee. It also isn't cluttered with useless Tv shows that let you only stream a single episode or movies that no one on Earth cares to see.

Link to some XBMC skins: http://xbmc.org/skins/

pcgizzmo
November 16th, 2010, 08:56 PM
XBMC is just far superior for those of us with large local media libraries. It offers more in the way of visual customization through skins and allowing control over thumbnails and fanart rather than a locked down system like Boxee. It also isn't cluttered with useless Tv shows that let you only stream a single episode or movies that no one on Earth cares to see.

Link to some XBMC skins: http://xbmc.org/skins/

Well then I'm interested. I bought the Boxee for mostly local media and only really care about Netflix, VUDU and HULU but mainly the local media. Thanks for the info.

pcgizzmo
November 17th, 2010, 05:27 PM
So I've downloaded XBMC and played with it and visually it's much more appealing than the Boxee box. Lots of customization available etc..

So, why are those that want to run XBMC wanting the Boxee? What can Boxee do that XBMC can't? I have run HD movies on XMBC as well as ripped DVD's. Is it just purely for local content and no streaming of Netflix, HULU etc? or are there plugin's for these?

darcilicious
November 17th, 2010, 05:50 PM
I think the logic is this: hard to find a $199 PC that will run XBMC so if XBMC can be hacked onto the Boxee Box, it's a cheap way to get XBMC on a set-top. I could be wrong though as I have zero interest in XBMC :)

Vandetta
November 17th, 2010, 06:29 PM
So I've downloaded XBMC and played with it and visually it's much more appealing than the Boxee box. Lots of customization available etc..

So, why are those that want to run XBMC wanting the Boxee? What can Boxee do that XBMC can't? I have run HD movies on XMBC as well as ripped DVD's. Is it just purely for local content and no streaming of Netflix, HULU etc? or are there plugin's for these?

I mainly use Boxee because of the streaming services it integrates. I was thinking if someone came out with a plugin for XBMC that pulled content like Boxee via RSS then would launch the default browser of the computer- that would be enough of a reason of me to switch back.

The only thing XBMC has is ascetics and customization. I really liked XBMC's Aeon & MediaStream Redux theme- but the reason I switced to Boxee was Hulu & Netflix. I looked into PlayOn before I switched a few months ago but I found I couldn't fast forward and rewind. I find it ironic that some people were suggesting to use that now that Boxee is removing Hulu.

There are some TV shows that I watch but don't wish to own. Like Colbert Report or Daily Show. I was using BlueCop's repo for Hulu & those shows on XBMC but Boxee's interface for that was a lot better.

Not to mention XBMC doesn't have a browser so the time it took for those plugins to load took forever. That and the Pandora App in Boxee works better than XBMC's.

I looked into Plex but that has its own issue. It seems Plex relied on a "flaw" to "sidejack" flash in the 10 version which was fixed in 10.1. So if you update flash Hulu doesn't work on Plex- or anything that relies on flash.

Every front end has its strength's and weaknesses. My thought is given a year or so Google will throw enough money behind GTV that it would be impossible for it not to succeed. I think this mainly because of the App Market. GTV's OS is essentially Android- and now all these Chinese manufacturers churn out these cheap Android tablets because of the iPad. Imagine that with set top boxes. There's nothing to say that some random developer won't come out with an App that works as a media center like XBMC or Boxee. The App Market hasn't launched yet- but their could be 1,000's of Apps that do what XBMC does.

I should also note: I probably won't buy a GTV because I'd rather an HTPC just because I spent a lot of time customizing hyperspin to run my emulators on my HTPC. I run Boxee as my main front end on my HTPC and I like the design of BBox & the controller- I just think if Android is any example- the market is gonna be flooded with cheap GTV stbs that run the same apps the flagship stb's will run.

NoPantsJim
November 17th, 2010, 07:30 PM
So I've downloaded XBMC and played with it and visually it's much more appealing than the Boxee box. Lots of customization available etc..

So, why are those that want to run XBMC wanting the Boxee? What can Boxee do that XBMC can't? I have run HD movies on XMBC as well as ripped DVD's. Is it just purely for local content and no streaming of Netflix, HULU etc? or are there plugin's for these?

Well in the same way that XBMC is light years ahead when handling local content and customization, Boxee is light years ahead with applications and creating an idiot-proof appliance.

XBMC has media scraping down to an exact science. If you name your files properly, you can reformat your HTPC on a daily basis and XBMC will end up showing you the exact same media information every time. By contrast, I have intentionally reset my Boxee to factory settings three times, and every single time it has scraped my local media different. Some movies/Tv shows are there, some arent. Sometimes they're identified right, sometimes not. It's wildly different every time.

Boxee has mastered applications though. Pandora is awesome; Hulu and Netflix were awesome and hopefully they will be again soon. It just makes the apps idiot proof. On the XBMC they really are a total shot in the dark, and an app that works tonight may never work again. If Boxee is already fighting with Hulu and Netflix, you can imagine how those two feel about operating on a platform as open as XBMC.

Ideally, I'd love for the final result to be a Boxee Box with a bootloader screen that gives you the option of running Boxee or XBMC on startup. That way I can use Boxee for online content and XBMC for local streaming.

juicejuice
December 19th, 2010, 06:40 PM
Ideally, I'd love for the final result to be a Boxee Box with a bootloader screen that gives you the option of running Boxee or XBMC on startup. That way I can use Boxee for online content and XBMC for local streaming.
That would be awesome. But I wonder if it's easier (or even possible?) to run XBMC as a Boxee app?

muhri
December 26th, 2010, 02:32 AM
Ideally, I'd love for the final result to be a Boxee Box with a bootloader screen that gives you the option of running Boxee or XBMC on startup. That way I can use Boxee for online content and XBMC for local streaming.

Amen to that.

Göktytan
December 26th, 2010, 04:43 AM
+100 for that´

juicejuice
December 27th, 2010, 01:32 AM
I don't think it would be on Boxee's commercial interests to support that, but I can't think of a good reason they would want to block that.

Allowing XBMC on the device would seem an easy way to boost sales of the Boxee Box hardware, which would surely make the Boxee investors (and D-Link) happy :)

The bonus: if they released an even smaller "stealth" version of the Boxee Box that I could mount behind my TV, that would run either Boxee or XBMC then I would snap one up in a flash. I don't have enough time these days to be tinkering around with building my own hardware. I want something that "just works" and that someone else has ironed out all the bugs. But I want it hackable :)

Göktytan
December 27th, 2010, 02:47 AM
What I do not understand is that Boxee says that bb is hacker friendly

nuggyblake
December 27th, 2010, 10:29 AM
What I do not understand is that Boxee says that bb is hacker friendly

G, Avner himself (in a video no less) stated without fear of contradiction that the BB will be hacker friendly. You can find that video very easily. If they choose not to allow access, Im sure some enterprising person (:p) can find a backdoor.

The great thing about technology is that everyone who uses it creates their own fingerprint with how they use it. I use boxee for streaming period and XBMC for streaming and local content. I found that XBMC has greater control over playback and versatility, but boxee has so much stuff you can watch I wish I had 15 pairs of eyes (:eek:). I go back and forth between the two. For me both on the same box would be awesome, BUT the next guy might not give a crap........

Happy new year !

tigerjuju
December 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM
I am a long time XBMC user on original Xbox, and have been using Boxee from time to time on PC. I was looking forward for Boxee Box, but deeply disappointed by reviews I have read so far about listed features not working and box running unstable. I have already seen some of this with PC version of Boxee. But it sounds like Boxee Box is even worse.

XBMC is much more capable at handling local contents, and WAY more stable. Some key capabilities that worked well under XBMC either don't work properly in Boxee or have been completed stripped out. The key thing Boxee has going for it is the internet content, which worked poorly for the most part, and that is when it does work.

If I can run XBMC on Boxee Box, I would have the perfect solution for me (especially since I don't care as much about internet content in the first place):
- a Set-top box capable of HD content without the hassle of PC
- highly capable and configurable for playing local contents
- all promised features working AND STABLE (are you listening, Boxee team?)

Göktytan
December 29th, 2010, 01:20 AM
We may well hope that there is someone who succeeded in what we want (xbmc on a BB box)

chaluga
December 29th, 2010, 05:03 AM
yeah we just need someone to make that work. It would be perfect for me too

alcatel
December 30th, 2010, 04:18 AM
The main thing that i like about XBMC is the cool fanart and that i can choose my own scrapers.
also the addons with XBMC are really good.

rolman
October 13th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Do you know if there's any advance with the XBMC within Boxee?

It has a way better music app

darcilicious
October 13th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Not yet. You might want to follow along here http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=44277