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hfisher999
February 8th, 2010, 01:36 PM
So, I always go back to Hulu to see if anything has changed and it has...during loading a screen comes up for the first time saying press enter for full screen and it actually interacts...still a bit choppy, but 1000 times better...did something get updated automaticall on Beta script????:eek:

It's more than Hulu, a whole bunch of apps and television shows just instantly started working...I do have the Latest Beta, I was not having the success that just came;;;I was especially shocked by the on screen commands that started working...Doesn't look like script was rewritten

donfulrich
February 9th, 2010, 01:58 AM
Last night I also updated per instructions by Mr. Wiley. I followed the links on his latest posts.
The TV Shows seem to come in much better with this latest update, although they remain choppy, compared with watching one through Itunes.
Is Nito TV similar to XBMC? For playing stored programs? What are people using it for?

JimWiley
February 9th, 2010, 02:20 AM
Last night I also updated per instructions by Mr. Wiley. I followed the links on his latest posts.
The TV Shows seem to come in much better with this latest update, although they remain choppy, compared with watching one through Itunes.
Is Nito TV similar to XBMC? For playing stored programs? What are people using it for?

No, NitoTV installs things necessary for proper flash 10.1beta2 support on the ATV. Which in turn is necessary for sites like Hulu. Whilst Nito can be used as a local file player (it is based on mplayer) and also has some limited web capability - it is most useful for what it allows you to enable (frameworks necessary for getting os x programmes to run, Kexts for USB support, AFP, SMB, etc. Enabling the USB port)

If you follow Keith's method to install the latest of everything and run Nito's smart installer, then do all the Tweaks that I describe (skiploopfilter, Network cache, remove ~/Movies as a source, etc) - you will have the best possible chance to run all content. There are still some Boxee Beta issues and Flash Beta issues that are being addressed in upcoming builds of both pieces of software. It's just a case of being patient and hoping our problems are their priority!

Jim

donfulrich
February 10th, 2010, 01:16 AM
If you follow Keith's method to install the latest of everything and run Nito's smart installer, then do all the Tweaks that I describe (skiploopfilter, Network cache, remove ~/Movies as a source, etc) - you will have the best possible chance to run all content.
Jim

Well .... a little challenging for my taste as far as the tweaks ... I did follow Keith's method and everything worked fine, the improvement to TV shows through Hulu was very apparent once the latest version and nitotv were installed. Can I just cut and paste your code on those tweaks? I am using a program called Putty. When you ask for a ctrlx will that transmit via Putty? Also your disclaimer is pretty strong ... ;)

I have another question. What is the best way to get some of my DVD movies stored on the ATV? Is that what XBMC is for?

JohnnyCorvette
February 12th, 2010, 10:40 AM
Everything else seems to work on Boxee install on ATV (all other apps and channels). Hulu videos appear in Hulu menu and can be started but once started screen goes blank. No sound. Can return to program list with menu button OK. If I hit pause during this otherwise dead playback I do get a transport bar in the bottom of the screen and the video count appears to be indexing.

Do I need to install Flash per some of these instuction above?

Running ATV 3.0.2 and reinstall of Boxee using 3.0.1 patchstick.

JimWiley
February 12th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Everything else seems to work on Boxee install on ATV (all other apps and channels). Hulu videos appear in Hulu menu and can be started but once started screen goes blank. No sound. Can return to program list with menu button OK. If I hit pause during this otherwise dead playback I do get a transport bar in the bottom of the screen and the video count appears to be indexing.

Do I need to install Flash per some of these instuction above?

Running ATV 3.0.2 and reinstall of Boxee using 3.0.1 patchstick.

Are you running the Alpha or the Beta? If you're still on the Alpha, then Hulu doesn't work at all anymore as far as I know (I'm a Brit, so you'll need to ask some US folks to be sure). I think, the only way to get Hulu now is on the Beta and you have to have the flash beta to make it work as well (although I can't say I've tried it myself).

Hope that helps

Jim

webman2k
February 12th, 2010, 11:51 AM
I think, the only way to get Hulu now is on the Beta and you have to have the flash beta to make it work as well (although I can't say I've tried it myself).

I can confirm that the latest Flash Beta is NOT required for Hulu, but it might be required for Boxee to play Hulu. I have Firefox 3.6 installed, and access Hulu directly through the browser, and it plays "fine". Fine meaning very watchable, but choppy at times depending on the animation.

I've actually found the current release of Flash to be much more stable than the beta, at least in terms of Firefox.

JimWiley
February 12th, 2010, 12:55 PM
I can confirm that the latest Flash Beta is NOT required for Hulu, but it might be required for Boxee to play Hulu. I have Firefox 3.6 installed, and access Hulu directly through the browser, and it plays "fine". Fine meaning very watchable, but choppy at times depending on the animation.

I've actually found the current release of Flash to be much more stable than the beta, at least in terms of Firefox.

Dude, you're right - I should have been more specific. I believe Boxee needs the Beta, but even that I only know through what other people have told me. Personally, I've found all UK content plays better with 10.0, so I regressed back to that version for the moment. I'm really looking for CrystalHD support from flash for HQ H264 streams like BBC HD. Other than that I'm happy to stick with 10.0 for now.

I think Hulu's a bit of a dog anyway, because the BBC serves up what seems to be the same quality content and Boxee on the ATV copes with it just fine. And it's not like we have fast DSL in the UK, most of us have a pretty crappy connection!

Jim

nuggyblake
February 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM
I can confirm that the latest Flash Beta is NOT required for Hulu, but it might be required for Boxee to play Hulu. I have Firefox 3.6 installed, and access Hulu directly through the browser, and it plays "fine". Fine meaning very watchable, but choppy at times depending on the animation.

I've actually found the current release of Flash to be much more stable than the beta, at least in terms of Firefox.

You are running Firefox 3.6 on your ATV ? Cool. Which wireless keyboard are you using ? I ask, because there is another app that I have installed on my ATV that requires a keyboard/mouse and it runs fine (apart from the fact that I need a keyboard) and loads my preferences, but without a KB Im stuck. I noticed that the Logitech diNovo seems pretty popular.

Cheers

PS: Im a brit also, but I live in GA. Dont hold that against Jim :>

Nigel

JimWiley
February 12th, 2010, 05:50 PM
You are running Firefox 3.6 on your ATV ? Cool. Which wireless keyboard are you using ? I ask, because there is another app that I have installed on my ATV that requires a keyboard/mouse and it runs fine (apart from the fact that I need a keyboard) and loads my preferences, but without a KB Im stuck. I noticed that the Logitech diNovo seems pretty popular.

Cheers

PS: Im a brit also, but I live in GA. Dont hold that against Jim :>

Nigel

I'm using VNC to control Firefox 3.6, but a word of warning it doesn't play well with eyetvhelper if you've previously tried to get EyeTV 3.0+ working on your ATV. Get rid of that shit and you'll have a smooth ride with Firefox... Just my 2p...

Jimmer

nuggyblake
February 12th, 2010, 06:10 PM
I'm using VNC to control Firefox 3.6, but a word of warning it doesn't play well with eyetvhelper if you've previously tried to get EyeTV 3.0+ working on your ATV. Get rid of that shit and you'll have a smooth ride with Firefox... Just my 2p...

Jimmer

Cheers. I knew that I could control ATV from my Ibook, but I wanted a wireless keyboard dedicated. I saw a logitec that claims to be ATV compatible.

I ordered one, so I will give it a try and let you know. Ive had luck with other apps on the atv. I been trying to get another video streaming app working and a VPN app so I can get emails from a Lotus Notes client.

OKAY I TAKE THE BAIT - What do I need to enable on the ATV side to get my vnc app working (I have the Ol Chicken of the VNC) ?

danGIMP
February 13th, 2010, 02:09 AM
OKAY I TAKE THE BAIT - What do I need to enable on the ATV side to get my vnc app working (I have the Ol Chicken of the VNC) ?

If you have a recovery.dmg with the appropriate 1.0 version of the OS.dmg (sometimes found as "OS-dot-DMG 1.0.dmg") with the md5 hash 55b909196952ff72c93aaf3553cf661e placed inside it, NitoTV's smartinstaller will install and enable VNC.

nuggyblake
February 13th, 2010, 07:57 AM
If you have a recovery.dmg with the appropriate 1.0 version of the OS.dmg (sometimes found as "OS-dot-DMG 1.0.dmg") with the md5 hash 55b909196952ff72c93aaf3553cf661e placed inside it, NitoTV's smartinstaller will install and enable VNC.

I was aware of this (although I cant grasp why this would have anything to do with enabling VNC !). Also, finding the OS-dot-DMG 1.0.dmg, is a bit like looking for Osama ! There are bunch you can torrent, but every torrent is like christmas day (you never know if the thing is shit until you open it).

I did find instructions that involved using Vine server 3.0, and creating a vnc.plist file via ssh (nano blah blah), but it didnt work. I will keep looking for a valid 1.0 dmg. BUT, if my new fancy wireless keyboard works, I should be golden.

Cheers

danGIMP
February 14th, 2010, 12:02 AM
I was aware of this (although I cant grasp why this would have anything to do with enabling VNC !). Also, finding the OS-dot-DMG 1.0.dmg, is a bit like looking for Osama ! There are bunch you can torrent, but every torrent is like christmas day (you never know if the thing is shit until you open it).

I did find instructions that involved using Vine server 3.0, and creating a vnc.plist file via ssh (nano blah blah), but it didnt work. I will keep looking for a valid 1.0 dmg. BUT, if my new fancy wireless keyboard works, I should be golden.

Cheers

1.0 had a RemoteManagement which later versions of the OS left out. I didn't have a hard time finding the 1.0 image at all. Just made sure that the md5 sum matches to ensure nobody slipped something ill in the image file.

JimWiley
February 14th, 2010, 01:40 AM
1.0 had a RemoteManagement which later versions of the OS left out. I didn't have a hard time finding the 1.0 image at all. Just made sure that the md5 sum matches to ensure nobody slipped something ill in the image file.

Word! It's not lurking in a cave in Afghanistan! (It's lurking in a cave on Pirate Bay). Plus if when you do a factory restore your ATV reverts back to 1.0, then you can issue one dd command and make one yourself:

sudo dd if=/dev/disk0s2 of=recovery.dmg bs=1m

Of course, that's only for us lucky buggers who bought one when it first came out...

Jim

nuggyblake
February 14th, 2010, 07:20 AM
I found it after three attempts (God bless those who seed on that place that we can't mention) . Everything is up and running. My only challenge now is to get screen sharing to work properly. Im waiting on a logitec keyboard which should work with the ATV.

Thanks

Nigel:D

donfulrich
February 14th, 2010, 11:59 PM
then do all the Tweaks that I describe (skiploopfilter, Network cache, remove ~/Movies as a source, etc) - you will have the best possible chance to run all content.
Jim

Whe I ran the skiploopfilter routine I got this at the end:
-bash-2.05b$ -bash-2.05b$ chmod +x ./Tweaks.sh
-bash: -bash-2.05b$: command not found
-bash-2.05b$ -bash-2.05b$ sudo ./Tweaks.sh
-bash: -bash-2.05b$: command not found
-bash-2.05b$ ./Tweaks.sh: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
> ./Tweaks.sh: line 1: `awk '{ if (!index($1, "#") && index($1, "=")) print $1 }' < '

Did not expect that per your instructions but the ATV seems to still work. What did I do wrong? Thanks for your hard work on all this ATV stuff.:D

Also, I was wondering why you and others have a newer release of Beta. I had to reinstall everything last night because I installed ATV 3.0.2 and it blew Boxee away. So I got the latest script again and it installed 0.9.20.10408. How can I get a newer version? I tried but the response was there was no newer version. Thanks!

danGIMP
February 15th, 2010, 12:58 AM
Not sure what editor you used for creating Tweaks.sh but it looks like you have a linewrap where you shouldn't. Go ahead and open the file in nano again, but press Meta-W (or Alt-W) and you should see a indication in the lower status bar indicating "auto wrap disabled" and then go to that line with the awk and make sure that the first line starts with the awk and ends with "| while read", the second line has the "do", the third has the "sysctl" and the fourth has the "done"


awk '{ if (!index($1, "#") && index($1, "=")) print $1 }' < /etc/sysctl.conf | while read
do
sysctl -w ${REPLY}
done

JimWiley
February 15th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Not sure what editor you used for creating Tweaks.sh but it looks like you have a linewrap where you shouldn't. Go ahead and open the file in nano again, but press Meta-W (or Alt-W) and you should see a indication in the lower status bar indicating "auto wrap disabled" and then go to that line with the awk and make sure that the first line starts with the awk and ends with "| while read", the second line has the "do", the third has the "sysctl" and the fourth has the "done"


awk '{ if (!index($1, "#") && index($1, "=")) print $1 }' < /etc/sysctl.conf | while read
do
sysctl -w ${REPLY}
done


What he said! :) Yeah, this can be common when cutting-and-pasting - depends on the system - I'll update my post to take this into account.....

Jim

danGIMP
February 15th, 2010, 12:42 PM
What he said! :) Yeah, this can be common when cutting-and-pasting - depends on the system - I'll update my post to take this into account.....

Jim

Jim, instead of nano, please use nano with the -w switch which will start the editor with linewrap disabled.

nano -w Tweaks.sh

JimWiley
February 15th, 2010, 01:21 PM
Jim, instead of nano, please use nano with the -w switch which will start the editor with linewrap disabled.

nano -w Tweaks.sh

Thanks! Great tip - will re-edit now

Jim

donfulrich
February 16th, 2010, 01:33 AM
Not sure what editor you used for creating Tweaks.sh but it looks like you have a linewrap where you shouldn't. Go ahead and open the file in nano again, but press Meta-W (or Alt-W) and you should see a indication in the lower status bar indicating "auto wrap disabled" and then go to that line with the awk and make sure that the first line starts with the awk and ends with "| while read", the second line has the "do", the third has the "sysctl" and the fourth has the "done"


awk '{ if (!index($1, "#") && index($1, "=")) print $1 }' < /etc/sysctl.conf | while read
do
sysctl -w ${REPLY}
done


Excellent! The line breaks were wrong just like you said. I am using a ssh editor called Putty for Windows XP.
Thanks! I'll put you guys in for a raise!:D
By the way, how do you get Beta r10643?????

I have ATV3.0.2 and Beta 9.20.10408, and now the Network Cache Tweak. Working on the rest.

JimWiley
February 16th, 2010, 01:48 AM
Excellent! The line breaks were wrong just like you said. I am using a ssh editor called Putty for Windows XP.
Thanks! I'll put you guys in for a raise!:D
By the way, how do you get Beta r10643?????

A raise from nothing to something? Sounds good to me!

Beta r10643 is available through the Beta Early Access Program. They e-mail you when a build is ready and you sign-in with your log-in credentials to get the link to the build. If it's not been publicly released already, then I think they're gonna skip it and go straight to releasing one of their internal builds which has SMB fixes in it.

Jim

donfulrich
February 17th, 2010, 10:58 AM
So another question. Should I roll back ATV OS to 3.0.1? I notice that you guys are not running 3.0.2. Why is that? :eek: Is there a way to roll back?

JimWiley
February 17th, 2010, 07:30 PM
So another question. Should I roll back ATV OS to 3.0.1? I notice that you guys are not running 3.0.2. Why is that? :eek: Is there a way to roll back?

I have updates disabled and am always suspicious of new updates - I was stung by 1.0 --> 1.1 and then again 1.1 --> 2.0. You don't know what they'll take out/put in that'll mess with your favourite set-up....

I believe there is a way to roll-back your set-up without having to re-install everything you currently have through software menu. However (and it's a big however) I haven't heard of anyone testing it from 3.0.2 --> 3.0.1, since I don't think that 3.0.2 existed when the last update of Software Menu was out then I don't know if this feature would work as expected. You could always try it and report back!

Bottom line is this. If you already have 3.0.2 and it works for you: don't change it! I'm happy with my 3.0.1 set-up and will only disturb it when Apple release some killer feature that I can't live without (doubtful!). I only went from 3.0 to 3.0.1 because I totally f-up my ATV, needed to do a factory restore and ended up on 3.0.1 because that was the version available through update. Or else, I'd still be on 3.0 now!

Jim