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shahedz
February 28th, 2010, 03:50 PM
I want to rip my DVD collection which is about 400 DVDs. I don't want to compress them as it would take me hours.

I was intending on using Mac the ripper which i believes rips the DVD in it's raw uncompressed format taking about 15mins and storing the movies on my NAS.

Would this work fine and would Boxee be able to play it ok?

and do i create a folder for each film , if so what do i label the folder?

Or do i just rip the DVD and the files created store them in the "video" folder i currently have.

Also the meta date, name film, DVD cover etc how would i be able to put all this on the film?

sorry for all the questions i'm knew to it all!

NomadDNA
February 28th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Mac The Ripper rips dvd's to Video_TS files, which:

1)Sometimes works for people
2) Sometimes doesn't work for people
3)And is not officially supported by boxee

I'm not sure how video_TS has fared for atv users... any users out there who know?

shahedz
February 28th, 2010, 04:44 PM
thank you for your reply, let's say it doesnt work well ( i am really hoping it does) . what's the quickest way to rip a DVD to make it compatible with Boxee?

thank you

NomadDNA
February 28th, 2010, 04:49 PM
sure... these answers are on google, btw...

Two step process:
1) Mac the ripper
2) iMedia converter
http://www.iskysoft.com/article/mac-the-ripper.html

Or one step:
1) Handbrake


I know you want to rip uncompressed first, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it

Even at it's bare bones, Video_TS files are large (4GB, in my experience)
4GB*400DVD's = 1.6TB

Whereas most movies in .mp4 in high quality are about 1GB
= 400GB

It's your call

shahedz
February 28th, 2010, 05:02 PM
I've bought a 2TB Nas drive for the DVDs. To be honest the reason i wanted to use Boxee was to by pass the need for handbrake. It's just that it would take me an age to handbrake all 400 DVDs. As it takes so many hours to convert.

I was under the impression i could use mac the ripper and that was it. Thus taking about 15mins per DVD, plus if i ever wanted to burn a DVD out of it i could.

The first method makes it iphone /apple etc friendly. That's not a requirement, as long as it will play on Boxee is fine for me.

I know it sounds silly but time is more of a concern than storage space.

Thank you for your links.

NomadDNA
February 28th, 2010, 05:06 PM
I know it sounds silly but time is more of a concern than storage space.

Thank you for your links.

It's a legit concern... I've been working on&off on my 150+ collection for a few months w/handbrake...

Could you try a video_Ts file with appletv as a test?

shahedz
February 28th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Will do , am away from my apartment for the next day or two but will post my results here.

thank you . In the mean time if any one has experience pls post here.

kdr0014
February 28th, 2010, 08:33 PM
if you use terminal to make an image copy of the disc it'll preserve all the extras and menus.
You already know the files sizes will be large, but you will be able to access and use them in boxee/xbmc.
The prep work you'll need to do is look up the bsd name for the drive you're putting dvds into. You can get this by putting a dvd in, and opening disk utility. it should be something like "disk2" or something similar. In disk utility unmount the dvd.

Open Terminal,
type: sudo -s
it will ask for your system password
type: dd if=/dev/disk2 of=/User/username/Desktop/moviename.iso


hit the enter key and the magic should start. You can move this to you NAS, and you should be good. It will act like you have a dvd in a dvd player in boxee.

The benefits of this you don't have to download additional software and process it, and it should take less than five minutes to write the file.

Hope this helps, and good luck

shahedz
March 1st, 2010, 02:07 AM
Thanks for your reply, excuse my ignorance, but what is Terminal?

Tallowby
March 1st, 2010, 09:25 AM
Thanks for your reply, excuse my ignorance, but what is Terminal?

I would not use terminal considering your reply.

Download Fairmount (http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/)

Run Fairmount

Insert DVD (This will create a folder image on the desktop)

Open Disk Utility (/Applications/Utilities)

Now look usually located below a grey line on the far left column, Select the disk (ie "disk2" - disk image icon) above the "DVD TITLE" (this will appear as a mounted HD icon)

Then under the 'Images' drop down select convert.

Here you must do 3 things.
(1) Name the file per Boxee naming convention under the "Save As"
(2) Choose a destination
(3) IMAGE FORMAT - set to DVD/CD Master (<---MUST)

This will create a file with an extension .cdr

Final Step change the .cdr extension to .iso and approve.

Done.

I particularly use Handbrake for most of my DVD's but for exercise DVD's I need menus and use this method.

Pyrofallout
March 1st, 2010, 11:19 AM
I would not use terminal considering your reply.

That was going to be my exact reply, but I choose not to. Glad someone other than me said it. :p


OP may I also suggest an application called ZippyRippy.

kdr0014
March 1st, 2010, 02:49 PM
Thanks for your reply, excuse my ignorance, but what is Terminal?

Terminal is an app that is built into the Mac OSX. It allows you to use BSD unix commands.

For your particular situation it is probably the best solution

shahedz
March 1st, 2010, 03:07 PM
As we speak i am using Mac the ripper - down side is it's taking about 50 minutes!! My 7yr old PC used to take 15mins per disc using DVD shrink.

I dont need all the menus . Just the main feature of the DVD. As this usually mean the DVD takes up 4.7gb rather than 8gb.

Tallowby
March 1st, 2010, 04:41 PM
As we speak i am using Mac the ripper - down side is it's taking about 50 minutes!! My 7yr old PC used to take 15mins per disc using DVD shrink.

I dont need all the menus . Just the main feature of the DVD. As this usually mean the DVD takes up 4.7gb rather than 8gb.

If all you need is the main feature. Give HandBrake a try (http://handbrake.fr/). There is a preset for AppleTV which works great in boxee. The other plus is that the file size will be much less than 4.7gb (1-2gb).

I don't know the horsepower of your hardware but here the time to encode is 30-45 min for an average title.

shahedz
March 1st, 2010, 04:45 PM
I am using the latest Mac Book Pro the one 2.53 ghz Core 2 Duo with 4gb Ram.

If it only takes 45 mins to encode a DVD using handbrake then that is superb!

I was under the impression it took about 4 -7 hours.

is there any quality difference between the uncompressed DVD- reason i ask is i have a 100" HD Projector i use as well so don't want to compromise the quality too much.

Thank you for all your help guys

maximusfacq
March 1st, 2010, 05:00 PM
I have the very same MBP. It takes about 45-hour for one disc. Keep in mind: the MBP's use the 8X SuperDrive, which, is slow slow slow. I might suggest using an external, faster drive to speed up the process. :D

shahedz
March 2nd, 2010, 03:57 AM
I have the very same MBP. It takes about 45-hour for one disc. Keep in mind: the MBP's use the 8X SuperDrive, which, is slow slow slow. I might suggest using an external, faster drive to speed up the process. :D

Is that to rip a DVD using mactheripper or using Handbrake?

shahedz
March 2nd, 2010, 03:57 AM
By the way the DVD ripped from mac the ripper plays fine, so stuttering so very pleased! (this is all over wifi too!)

Tallowby
March 2nd, 2010, 08:14 AM
I am using the latest Mac Book Pro the one 2.53 ghz Core 2 Duo with 4gb Ram.

If it only takes 45 mins to encode a DVD using handbrake then that is superb!

I was under the impression it took about 4 -7 hours.

is there any quality difference between the uncompressed DVD- reason i ask is i have a 100" HD Projector i use as well so don't want to compromise the quality too much.

Thank you for all your help guys


I have a 120- in HD Projector and considering DVD's are NOT Blue Ray the quality is acceptable. Also if you plan on using wifi you might also want to check the 'Web optimized' checkbox as well as the AppleTV preset (helps streaming). Remember to save your tweaked preset.

maximusfacq
March 2nd, 2010, 09:02 AM
That's with Handbrake encoding. AnyDVD for the ripping.

shahedz
March 2nd, 2010, 06:39 PM
ok using just mactheripper i rip the main part of the film.

I label the folder and Boxee picks up the thumbnail. How ever when i go to play it crash with an Error status 5

any ideas?

kdr0014
March 2nd, 2010, 10:33 PM
Not sure if this will help, but elgato makes a hardware encoder called the Turbo.264HD which might help you get the feature film in a container that is compatible with more device/software configurations.

shahedz
March 3rd, 2010, 07:21 AM
Would you happen to know how long handbrake takes to code a film. Its taking me 35mins to rip the film using mac the ripper and then nearly 2 hours to transfer over my slow network.

If handbrake doesn't take too long to code i may just use it.

thanks

interceptor121
March 3rd, 2010, 08:37 AM
You are going everywhere

What kind of network have you got? It is possible that is so crap that no matter the file format it won't play smoothly

Tallowby
March 3rd, 2010, 09:58 AM
Would you happen to know how long handbrake takes to code a film. Its taking me 35mins to rip the film using mac the ripper and then nearly 2 hours to transfer over my slow network.

If handbrake doesn't take too long to code i may just use it.

thanks

For me the times vary depending on the title. Anywhere from 15 - 45 mins with my imac

shahedz
March 3rd, 2010, 02:13 PM
Wow- i may give that a go.

shahedz
March 5th, 2010, 07:24 AM
I have a 120- in HD Projector and considering DVD's are NOT Blue Ray the quality is acceptable. Also if you plan on using wifi you might also want to check the 'Web optimized' checkbox as well as the AppleTV preset (helps streaming). Remember to save your tweaked preset.

Hi Tallowby

Seeing as you are a fellow projector user can you let me know what settings you are using for Handbrake?

thanks

Tallowby
March 5th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Hi Tallowby

Seeing as you are a fellow projector user can you let me know what settings you are using for Handbrake?

thanks

Here Ya go, preset called "me".... I can not say it is the best but back when I was streaming to the aTV these seemed to work the best.

shahedz
March 5th, 2010, 09:28 AM
Here Ya go, preset called "me".... I can not say it is the best but back when I was streaming to the aTV these seemed to work the best.

Anychance you can send that in a different format pls. i dont have winzip

thank you

Tallowby
March 5th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Anychance you can send that in a different format pls. i dont have winzip

thank you

Sorry but forum rules will not allow upload of that file extension. There are a bunch of free expanders out there. I have a mac and zip/unzip is built into the OS

bavarian323i
May 18th, 2010, 11:53 AM
So whats the consensus here? I am new to this too. I have been using dvd shrink, any dvd, and dvd decryptor to rip dvds in the past. Can I just drop the .ts files (that DVD shrink rips) into the appletv HD?

Secondly, it sounds as if handbrake is pretty streamline, but does it affect the quality at all? I have a keen eye for this, so any professional opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks!