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falvesjr
April 5th, 2010, 05:46 PM
If the data used to identify movies comes from IMDB, how come I have a movie that is in IMDB but cannot be found by Boxee? I used the manual ID method for several of my movies, which works great. But Stargate SG-1: Children of the Gods - Final Cut, though in IMDB here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483803/), cannot be found by the manual updater in Boxee. Any thoughts? :confused:

agentlame
April 5th, 2010, 05:51 PM
How is the file named?

You should name you files according to:
http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=5214

darcilicious
April 5th, 2010, 05:55 PM
I used the manual ID method for several of my movies, which works great. But Stargate SG-1: Children of the Gods - Final Cut, though in IMDB here, cannot be found by the manual updater in Boxee.

I would recommend reporting the problem via http://support.boxee.tv/forums/97444/entries/90018 and be sure to mention that you can't find the movie in Boxee's IMDB database via the manual search/resolve method.

(I have a couple of these myself)

falvesjr
April 5th, 2010, 06:05 PM
All my movies are named exactly according to the Boxee guidelines, using the IMDB names. This particular one is named Stargate.SG-1.-.Children.of.the.Gods.-.Final.Cut.(2009).m4v, but that's not the problem... The problem is that Boxee can't find that movie at all. I've tried searching in many different ways, but it always comes up empty. Searching in the IMDB site finds it easily.

I've also noticed that Boxee just does not like to scrape some movies. For example: 2012, Star Trek (2009 movie), Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, etc. It seems to me that it has trouble scrapping movies that have multiple matches in IMDB, even if you properly specify the year and add the "I" or "II" when the same year has more than one entry. The worst part is that using the manual ID system easily finds these movies, usually in the top spot of the matches, but it just won't commit to assigning the data to the database in the auto mode. The Stargate one that I'm having trouble with is the only one for which Boxee returns zero matches...

darcilicious
April 5th, 2010, 06:08 PM
How is the file named?

You should name you files according to:
http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=5214

Just to clarify, it doesn't matter how the file is named when using the manual search/resolve method. But the Boxee IMDB is definitely missing some entries that IMDB.com has...

falvesjr
April 5th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Yeah, absolutely. During manual resolve you can type whatever you want in the search field, and believe me, I tried a lot of different things trying to find the movie...

I filled out the form you mention above, but I used the movie form, not the TV show one you linked.

Have you seen the issue I mention in the previous post where the auto resolver just can't make up it's mind about movies with multiple matches?

IVIilk
April 11th, 2010, 07:36 PM
I had some problems like this also. I resolved some not all of them by using all lower case letters when searching. One instance was the movie Watchmen it would not Find it unless I searched watchmen. I have run across this with about 15 movies. I'm not sure If anyone else has seen this problem or not.

StevenR
April 13th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Apparently, it seems that Boxee will not identify any movie which is identified on IMDB as being a "straight to video" release. These are identified on the IMDB site by having (V) after the title. This seems to be the case for "Stargate SG-1: Children of the Gods - Final Cut".

Unfortunately, this seems to be intentional as the issue on JIRA reporting this (BOXEE-4635 (http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-4635)) was resolved as "Won't Fix".
I commented on that issue, as I feel that this limits the usefulness of Boxee as there are many "straight to video" movies (such as movie sequels) which Boxee should be able to index.

falvesjr
April 13th, 2010, 03:04 PM
I also just left a comment on JIRA about this. Like I say there, I can't imagine this being a technical problem, so it must be a licensing issue. I hope that they can add this to their license soon! Otherwise we really need a way to input data manually, not just try to resolve it manually (as programs like SG-1:CotG will never resolve)! :eek:

Rulo
April 13th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Does anyone know of a way to select different covert art for movies in Boxee? I don't like having "coming soon" posters instead of the actual poster or at leasr the DVD cover.

agentlame
April 13th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Does anyone know of a way to select different covert art for movies in Boxee? I don't like having "coming soon" posters instead of the actual poster or at leasr the DVD cover.

Currently, there is no way to do this.

Rulo
April 13th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Thanks agent!

agentlame
April 13th, 2010, 05:17 PM
I also just left a comment on JIRA about this. Like I say there, I can't imagine this being a technical problem, so it must be a licensing issue. I hope that they can add this to their license soon! Otherwise we really need a way to input data manually, not just try to resolve it manually (as programs like SG-1:CotG will never resolve)! :eek:

I do not follow your logic at all. Licensing it what regard? Are you asking if Boxee licenses metadata individually for each and every movie and TV show on IMDB? If so, I can assure you this is not the case.

EDIT:
My bad, I didn't see the JIRA link above.

You are correct, these should resolve, and Boxee should fix this.

falvesjr
April 13th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Licensing it what regard?
I mean that Boxee must have some sort of licensing agreement with IMDB to use the data. I don't think they pay per program, but maybe they only license the movie and TV data and any other data, like direct to video, might not be included in the license. Also, this "license" may not even be a monetary thing, but I doubt that Boxee is just querying the IMDB database without permission... Does that make sense? :)

agentlame
April 13th, 2010, 06:12 PM
I mean that Boxee must have some sort of licensing agreement with IMDB to use the data. I don't think they pay per program, but maybe they only license the movie and TV data and any other data, like direct to video, might not be included in the license. Also, this "license" may not even be a monetary thing, but I doubt that Boxee is just querying the IMDB database without permission... Does that make sense? :)

No, I follow what you mean, after I read the JIRA.

I sent Marcel an email, perhaps he can clarify. I agree completely that this is an odd limitation, and also think it should be fixed.

darcilicious
April 14th, 2010, 11:05 AM
I sent Marcel an email, perhaps he can clarify. I agree completely that this is an odd limitation, and also think it should be fixed.
Looks like it will be fixed in a future release -- the issue has been re-opened.