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Quash
August 13th, 2010, 07:23 AM
I like the main Movie DVD cover view with movie description. Kids also like it for selecting their movie. However, I do not want to mix kid movies, family movies, kids tv series and parent tv series in this view. I can crawl by folder but then .jpg thumbnails appear, it's more difficult for the kides and the view is not as nice.

Currently, parent movies, kids movies and even the extras of movies are all mixed together in to a big jumble. The "genre" options on the left do not act as proper filters.

How can I preserve this full DVD cover/description/rating view while still separating the movies, and having the kids being able to access the movies from a top menu for ease of use.

I think Boxee needs build this functionality in to its software in a very apparent way. Web scraping works great for movies, by the way. Haven't had success with tv series so far but I'm working on it.

Rulo
August 13th, 2010, 09:05 AM
The best way to do this so far is to associate each movie folder (kids, adults, etc) with its own Boxee account. So basically you'll have your own user name and see your movies (you'll have to specify the folders) and so on.
I hope this helps.
;)

Quash
August 14th, 2010, 07:17 PM
This is a a helpful temporary workaround. Thanks.

But, it doesn't actually solve the full issue. For example, I have one folder of hundreds of home movies, only titled by date. Kids love them and watching them all the time. Then, they'll watch an episode of The Little Rascals, and then a movie.

Problem is, the home movies and kids movies are completely jumbled together in the Movie view (the great DVD cover view). So, it's essentially useless, because it's so tedious to move through.

Right now, we know the people who are using this product are early adopters. Mostly males. All with a little geek in them. However, if Boxee wants to go mainstream and be able to compete alongside Google TV and AppleTV (rumoured iTV), it will have to recognize that *families* use these boxes, not just geek fanboys.

Thanks for the tip for the temporary workaround. I appreciate it. Hopefully, Boxee will create some family-friendly options in an upcoming update.

badbob001
August 20th, 2010, 02:28 PM
We need a better way to organize movies/videos and it's annoying to think I have to jump to xbmc to get that.

I'm imaging a virtual folder system where you can add create a logical folder structure and add online and local sources to each virtual folder.

So say you make virtual folders kids, parents, and other. In kids, you would add as sources some local folders (sub folders included option enabled), some kid-oriented youtube channels, etc. And so the same for the other virtual folders.

I imagine you don't have to limit yourself to a particular media type, so the same virtual folder can contain photo and audio sources and perhaps even search queries. And you can obviously create sub-virtual folders so you can re-organize your view without having to re-arrange physical folders. And finally, each source and virtual folder has individual options like to toggle flattened view (like the current movies view) or to include subfolders.

smeranda
August 23rd, 2010, 02:11 PM
An ideal solution would be to utilize tagging/categories better. Currently, Boxee grabs the movie's category from IMDB and stores it. On the left, you can then sort/filter by category/genre. However, 90% of the time, the categories are wrong, inconsistent and useless. I'd love the option to add multiple categories to each media element. This way, they are all in the same library, but I could filter only 'Kids' or 'Drama' or 'Animation' etc...

Rulo
August 23rd, 2010, 03:50 PM
This is a a helpful temporary workaround. Thanks.

But, it doesn't actually solve the full issue. For example, I have one folder of hundreds of home movies, only titled by date. Kids love them and watching them all the time. Then, they'll watch an episode of The Little Rascals, and then a movie.

Problem is, the home movies and kids movies are completely jumbled together in the Movie view (the great DVD cover view). So, it's essentially useless, because it's so tedious to move through.



A new idea you can try is to pin the folders of interest to the pop up menu. By doing that you could have your private home movies folder for easy access right there, you then have to delete this folder from the library. You can do that by accessing the folders through the files system and then once you are in the folder you want go left and add it to your shortcuts.
I hope this helps. :)

Quash
September 3rd, 2010, 01:46 PM
Okay, I tried to set up separate user accounts - for kids and adults. However, each Boxee account requires a separate email address. <scratching head>

Is this seriously the only way to set separate video content for kids and adults in the main Movie folder? New user account and then creating new email addresses for each user account? :eek:

I must be missing something. This is very basic functionality for a media centre which different people will be using.

A family should be able to ensure kids can't access adult content or, at minimum, keep it separate. And things like History should be able to be disabled within a single user account so kids can't see what adults have been watching. Pretty basic stuff.

Thanks for the tip on pinning a folder, btw. Helpful.

darcilicious
September 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM
Is this seriously the only way to set separate video content for kids and adults in the main Movie folder? New user account and then creating new email addresses for each user account? :eek:

Currently, yes. And it sounds like the perfect job for hotmail.com :)

badbob001
September 3rd, 2010, 03:35 PM
To be fair, not even Windows Media Center supports multiple accounts, but I do see it having Parental Controls that uses Ratings and an Access Code to restrict viewing (but the selections themselves are not hidden I believe). It would be excellent for Boxee to adapt parental controls, though regarding private content, this is not as easy as having separate accounts with separate settings.

Could you put the 'adult' stuff on a password protected network share and have Boxee prompt you for an access password if you attempt to access that folder?

Quash
September 3rd, 2010, 03:54 PM
BadBob, I agree with the direction you are suggesting. Multiple accounts is a workaround, not a solution. Especially if you have to associate a different email address with each account. That just gets silly.

Parental controls with access restriction is the solution. Give control to parents. And allow History and Recently Viewed to be disabled. Basic stuff.

My kids clicking on My Movies and seeing American Beauty next to Alice in Wonderland is a problem for a consumer electronic product which wants to be the centre of the family living room.


To be fair, not even Windows Media Center supports multiple accounts, but I do see it having Parental Controls that uses Ratings and an Access Code to restrict viewing (but the selections themselves are not hidden I believe). It would be excellent for Boxee to adapt parental controls, though regarding private content, this is not as easy as having separate accounts with separate settings.

Could you put the 'adult' stuff on a password protected network share and have Boxee prompt you for an access password if you attempt to access that folder?

judgeschambers
September 3rd, 2010, 06:22 PM
Some of the user account settings are put into the Boxee "cloud" and require a user account to link them too. So, that's one of the reasons. ;)

Technically, I could go to my buddy's house and log onto his boxee with my account and all my apps, que, feed, and such would be there for me to use. And my settings are completely separate from my buddy's. No way to cross 'em.

This does not help your situation, but it's part of the "why."

judgeschambers
September 3rd, 2010, 06:24 PM
A new idea you can try is to pin the folders of interest to the pop up menu. By doing that you could have your private home movies folder for easy access right there, you then have to delete this folder from the library. You can do that by accessing the folders through the files system and then once you are in the folder you want go left and add it to your shortcuts.
I hope this helps. :)

Yeah, that's what I do with my Home movies and my P90X stuff until there's a better way built into boxee.

With the fixes and the bbox coming on soon, the dev's are working overtime trying to turn all the dials on everything. Somethings just have to be last on the list. ;)

jedweb
November 17th, 2010, 09:41 AM
+1 for more granularity in the parental controls.

I'd like to be able to manually set which movies I have are protected.

The 'two profiles' workaround isn't very satisfying.

Thanks for listening!

gypsylounge
February 16th, 2011, 06:08 PM
In Windows Media Center you can group movies into folders. For example Kids Movies, Home Movies and Movies. When my 4 year old wants to watch a movie I am able to navigate to the Kids Movies folder easily and hand off the remote so she can search through all of the movie content that she wants to watch.
I can't believe you cant get that type of separation in boxee. I had hoped this would be the product to stabilize and simplify my media center. Looks like there is still work to be done.
I don't plan on creating separate email addresses and accounts and have to switch between them every time I use this product. I would like to see a way to add a tag, like and mp3, that would separate the movies. Then I could use the genre drop to separate the movies. Wouldn't that be an easier than creating multiple email addresses and accounts?

rjwrichards
February 16th, 2011, 07:40 PM
multiple accounts = easiest solution. but seriously, your files need to be sorted out. a realized this right away with boxee. its fine under 1000 but after that just spend the time to sort them. I did them by comedy/drama/ animated/childrens/action/horror/scifi. under each I have a TV section for those and movies files for those. It makes maint TONS easier etc.... I have 6 people using 2 boxes now and all have thier own accounts. this avoids alot of "what are they watching"...