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Atnevon
November 12th, 2010, 05:27 PM
This may be a silly question, but I have seen quite a few mentions of Fancast as an alternative to Hulu, while I haven't seen anything to suggest that Boxee has any agreement with Fancast to stream their content. If that is indeed the case, I can't see why the Boxee Box won't be blocked in very short order just like Google TV was.

If they do have some agreement with Fancast to stream their content, then I may still order a box, but if not, I'm thinking that my Christmas money would be much better spent on a Roku as a gift than a Boxee from the looks of things, as there's absolutely no way I'm going to give something to a family member that isn't going to work right.

judgeschambers
November 12th, 2010, 05:42 PM
Fancast works and HuluPlus is on the way with a new and improved Netflix. I'm diggin' it.

Atnevon
November 12th, 2010, 05:54 PM
I really respect you judgeschambers. You help a ton of people out on the forums, and while I don't post much, I do lurk around here quite a bit as I've been very hopeful that Boxee will evolve into something great, even despite my bad experiences with the PC software side of it.

That being said, your reply wasn't really an answer. Yes, I've heard that Fancast works right now, but if they don't have any agreements with Boxee, it's not promising that it will last very long.

I know Netflix and Hulu Plus are coming, but Boxee has been notoriously late to deliver on things, so while they say that they'll have things working by the end of the year, I don't have a ton of confidence in that statement from their previous track record for making deadlines.

We know that there's an agreement with Vudu, so that covers streaming movies (though it sounds like due to a bug that's not working yet either), but for regular streaming TV shows I'm not very confident that Fancast will remain a viable option much longer if there isn't some agreement or understanding between Fancast and Boxee where Boxee won't be blocked.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I think it's a valid concern, especially since we know that Fancast just got done blocking Google TV.

bxpressiv
November 12th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Just a query on Fancast, does it stream through the browser or just appears in the TV section?

Prospero424
November 12th, 2010, 10:26 PM
I guess what I don't understand is why you think the Roku (or any other solution, for that matter) would be any better. They don't support Fancast at all, and their Hulu Plus support is still in development, as well. They do have Netflix, but so will the Boxee box soon.

Also, there are many shows that still work on Boxee through the networks' own streaming sites.

That being said, I can certainly understand the frustration. The current situation where the big content providers are actively colluding to use their market positions to stifle competition and innovation in order to protect their current business models is unacceptable and occasionally infuriating from a consumer standpoint.

Boxee can't really do much about this unless they want to alienate the sources (Hulu, Fancast, broadcast networks) they need and/or they want to get sued by these big organizations with big lawyers.

The best thing we can do right now (rather than vent over this problem at Boxee staff whose hands are tied on the issue and are probably even more frustrated than we are) is to contact these providers, contact Hulu, and lodge a complaint with the FTC and the FCC regarding anti-competitive behavior.

I've posted all of the contact information to do so in this thread (http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=119635&postcount=16).

xavier32178
November 12th, 2010, 10:26 PM
I have had some shows on Fancast say I needed to login to my comcast account to view the video...Problem is I have Charter so thats not going to work :)

gulagosphere
November 13th, 2010, 01:37 AM
The current situation where the big content providers are actively colluding to use their market positions to stifle competition and innovation in order to protect their current business models

If that were entirely true xbmc project would have died long ago ;)



Boxee can't really do much about this unless they want to alienate the sources

Ahh, but the user can with the [once] almighty dollar. End users could easy create a boycott (thread or blog). Watch the kowtowing!



is to contact these providers, contact Hulu, and lodge a complaint with the FTC and the FCC regarding anti-competitive behavior.

Regulation is not superior to public shaming.

But best of luck pursuing that angle.



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I have tried netflix and found them wanting. "As many movies as netflix deems you should have" is not a policy I can abide. Hulu is entertaining per se to game adblocking. ALL hulu ads can be blocked without blackout gaps... but with their flying monkeys such gaming information cannot be publicized and remain functional long. I refuse to patronize hulu.

Other people are likely more inclined to patronize their lowest common denominator approach in their respective (blissful) ignorance.

Poor judgment spending is good for the market.

Prospero424
November 13th, 2010, 02:05 AM
If that were entirely true xbmc project would have died long ago ;)

XBMC does not and has never tried to integrate Hulu content or practical television streaming in general beyond a couple of niche, third-party attempts. I don't see the point of the comparison.


Ahh, but the user can with the [once] almighty dollar. End users could easy create a boycott (thread or blog). Watch the kowtowing!

Wait. Who's "kowtowing" now? I'm confused.


Regulation is not superior to public shaming.

But best of luck pursuing that angle.

What, exactly, is your objection to doing BOTH? Edit: oh, and we're not really talking about regulation. What would happen is that the DoJ (or other agency tasked with consumer protection) would sue the content providers in federal court. But really, even the threat of a serious investigation I think would be sufficient to spur significant change in policies at the companies involved.

Poor judgment spending is good for the market.

I hope you're being sarcastic.