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Chip Munk
November 29th, 2010, 04:02 PM
Hello All, I've just picked up Boxee Box on the weekend and installed. I'm having several issues, which I'll address one per thread, this being the first.

Boxee Box is connected to the Internet and working using Wireless N, via a D-Link DIR-825 router. It shows up in the router's DHCP client list.

But, I cannot reserve its IP address; I get the message (from the router) "Invalid MAC Address". [I try to keep my network tightly locked down, including making a reservation for every device, and keeping the size of the DHCP pool limited to the actual number of devices (having expanded it by one for the Boxee).]

Looking at the client table, I see Boxee has a MAC beginning with 74, and this is likely the reason for the error. I have never before seen a MAC whose first segment was not 00; and what's more, the D-Link router won't accept it!

Can anyone confirm that Boxee Box MACs begin with 74?

Any ideas about reserving it in the D-Link router?

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Can anyone confirm the Boxee Box MAC address?

dr.ripco
November 30th, 2010, 03:59 PM
Can anyone confirm the Boxee Box MAC address?

I don't think your theory is correct.

Mine starts with 5C, one of my ipods starts 90, Sun Microsystems usually is on 08 for first, has been since the 90's.

If your router is saying it's invalid, it's invalid for some other reason.

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks for the confirmation! I'll need to check with D-Link about the reservation, then.

darcilicious
November 30th, 2010, 04:03 PM
If no one responds before I get home tonight, I'll find mine.

Also, I should think that the MAC address is associated with the *network* card/chip and not with the Boxee Box as a whole unit. So for ethernet that would be a RealTek MAC vendor ID # (http://boxeeboxwiki.org/wiki/Hardware).

For the wireless, I found this tidbit The Mini PCI-E wireless card employs a Broadcom BCM4319XKUBG. from iFixit's Teardown page: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Boxee-Box-Teardown/4109/1

zdesignstudio
November 30th, 2010, 04:06 PM
I was able to reserve my BB via its wireless MAC that as your does starts with 74.

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 04:10 PM
Yes, you're correct; I hadn't even thought about Boxee Box having two network adapters (wired/wireless), so it would have two distinct MAC addresses.

This is a relatively new D-Link DIR-825 router, which has never complained about reserving all my other devices, so guess I'll need to check with D-Link about this problem.

darcilicious
November 30th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Ha, I revisited a MAC vendor lookup site and the form autofilled with the following leading digits: 74:F0:6D which come up unknown. Not sure what that's about...

http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 04:20 PM
I was able to reserve my BB via its wireless MAC that as your does starts with 74.

Thanks for that. What brand router do you use?

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Ha, I revisited a MAC vendor lookup site and the form autofilled with the following leading digits: 74:F0:6D which come up unknown. Not sure what that's about...

http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/

Thanks for the link. Mine starts with the same six digits, and like you I got the 'no information' result.

However, in the See Also section of that page, I went to the OUI and company_id Assignments link and did a search there, which produced the following:

74-F0-6D (hex) AzureWave Technologies, Inc.
74F06D (base 16) AzureWave Technologies, Inc.
8F., Baozhong Rd.,
Xindian City, Taipei County. 231
TAIWAN, REPUBLIC OF CHINA

Well, I guess the Boxee Box wireless adapter could be made by them?

zdesignstudio
November 30th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Thanks for that. What brand router do you use?

It is just one from Motorola that is built into my DOCIS 3 modem.

dr.ripco
November 30th, 2010, 05:24 PM
Yes, you're correct; I hadn't even thought about Boxee Box having two network adapters (wired/wireless), so it would have two distinct MAC addresses.

I wouldn't assume that to be true. I was screwing around with something earlier this year, either the WDTV box or a Hawking video camera, but whatever it was, it used the same mac address for both the wired and wireless.

If you look at the bottom of the boxee, there is a bar code for the mac address, but only one is listed. Most laptops have two bar codes, two mac addresses.

I'm pretty sure if it's designed to be wired or wireless, but not at the same time, there really isn't a reason to waste a mac address so one is shared between the two.

Chip Munk
November 30th, 2010, 05:29 PM
Good info, dr.ripco. Thanks.

In any case, my router doesn't like Boxee's MAC. Not a showstopper, just an annoyance.

gr8rx
November 30th, 2010, 05:59 PM
I'm pretty sure if it's designed to be wired or wireless, but not at the same time, there really isn't a reason to waste a mac address so one is shared between the two.

Well for technical reasons all devices should use unique MAC addresses for each PHY.

Anyway, apparently there is a screen;

http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/323075-settings-system

... that lists both of the MAC addresses. I only found this post whilst googling for the MAC address of the Boxee Box's. And the "74:F0:6D" just so happens to be appearing on one of my wireless AP logs.. But it's definitely not for the Boxee Box.

I'd suggest at best this wireless device + vendor ID are in use in other devices, as I'm fairly certain the device that is connecting with the above MAC address is a Windows 7 laptop - it keeps requesting Windows Updates, something I'm sure Boxee wouldn't be doing. :)

Can anyone else confirm what their wireless vendor ID is (the first 6 digits of the wireless MAC)?

zdesignstudio
November 30th, 2010, 09:20 PM
Mine is 74:f0:6d:xx:xx:xx and it is for sure the wireless card. Ill post the MAC of my wired ethernet when I get around to running a cable across the house to test it. Not going to go by what the Boxee software says. Ill be using what my router says.

gr8rx
November 30th, 2010, 09:46 PM
Mine is 74:f0:6d:xx:xx:xx and it is for sure the wireless card. Ill post the MAC of my wired ethernet when I get around to running a cable across the house to test it. Not going to go by what the Boxee software says. Ill be using what my router says.

Yeh, I just got my hands on one now. The vendor ID is definitely 74-f0-6d as mentioned. The MAC address printed on the bottom of the unit and box is 5C-D9-98 which resolves to "D-Link Corporation", so this is most likely the MAC of the wired interface.

Slightly annoying that it's using a relatively "generic" vendor ID for the wireless. As I said, I've already got a device on my network using the same vendor ID that isn't a Boxee Box - here's hoping I don't have to pull any fancy tricks to make it work based on the vendor ID. :)