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markush
December 26th, 2010, 05:53 AM
I would like to use the Boxee Box as a file-server ... so the attached USB drive should be visible on my Windows XP computer to make handling files easier.
This is also mentioned here: http://gigaom.com/video/boxee-box-tips/

I enabled "windows file sharing" and selected a password, though the Boxee Box / USB drive still don't show up on my windows computer.

I am sure many use this feature so please could someone provide me a guide into how to setup things. thank you in advance!!

markush
December 26th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Just to add - the Boxee Box is currently connected via WLAN

judgeschambers
December 26th, 2010, 07:46 AM
Now that you've made the usb available on the network, I think on XP you have to run the Network Configuration wizard for XP to see the new share. With XP, everytime you add a new network machine, nas or whatever...you have to run it.

Windows 7 does not require this step.

markush
December 26th, 2010, 11:36 AM
What settings do I have to do exactly in the Boxee Box to make this work? Unfortunately still have no clue. This should then also be added to the FAQ, setup guide etc.

judgeschambers
December 26th, 2010, 11:54 AM
On BBox:
Go to Settings/ Network and scoll down to Servers.
Check Enable Windows File Sharing.
I left all the work group, user and other settings listed there as is. Done.

Should work for anything connected to bbox: usb thumb or usb hard drive, etc.

Windows 7:
Went to Network Computers & Divices and it just shows up as BoxeeBox. I was able to instantly get into my WD USB hard drive and Sandisk Cruzer thumb dirve connected to bbox. No set up on Windows 7.
You can now create a Shortcut to that BoxeeBox link and put it anywhere on that machine.
I was able to instantly watch a movie off the BBox usb hard drive on my local Win-7 machine.

Now for XP:
Went to Network Connections
Clicked Network Places in Left menu and all my shared folders were listed including my WD Passport Hard Drive & Sandisk Cruzer thumb dirve(boxeebox)
Or by clicking View Workgroup Computers and then you see the actual PC's or BoxeeBoxes listed.
No set up on Windows XP.
You can now create a Shortcut to that BoxeeBox link and put it anywhere on that machine.
I was able to instantly watch a movie off the BBox usb hard drive and thumb drive on my local XP machine.

How to enable it and what type of drives are already on the support pages below. But,I'll look into expanding this info on the BBox Support Pages later.

Currently here is how it generically shows what is supported on bbox:
http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/325794-adding-and-using-an-external-usb-drive
Currentlyhere is a shot of how to enable windows sharing mode on bbox. Scroll down to Servers pic
http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/323073-settings-network


Below are two ways to see the BBox as a NAS unit and access a USB thumb or hard drive attached.

markush
December 26th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Another Info: the Network settings say the IP Address of the boxee Box is 10.0.03
I already tried \\10.0.0.3 on the Win xp Computer but that didn't work either.

judgeschambers
December 26th, 2010, 12:38 PM
Another Info: the Network settings say the IP Address of the boxee Box is 10.0.03
I already tried \\10.0.0.3 on the Win xp Computer but that didn't work either.

I did not have to set or change anything on boxee.
Should not matter if your router uses \\10.0.0.3 as the IP for the box

Are you typing this \\10.0.0.3 into a browser or something. Should not need to. All you have to do is follow my XP directions above.....and go to XP's Network Connections....

markush
December 26th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Yes, I was typing \\10.0.0.3 into a browser ... didn't work ... also tried to create a new network alias (new drive "Z" that is \\10.0.0.3) which didn't work either.
Will try again your instructions above and hope to get this working.

ohclereef01
December 27th, 2010, 04:19 PM
Can I hookup an external drive to my boxee box and share that drive on my network via SMB?

If not it would be a great feature!

ohclereef01
December 27th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Guess I should have looked a bit harder!



5. Use the Boxee Box as a file server

Donít have a NAS (network attached storage) drive yet? Well, you got one now: Just attach a USB hard drive to your Boxee Box, go to Settings > Network > Servers and chose to Enable Windows file sharing. Youíll now be able to access that USB drive from any PC in your network to share files locally, do backups and more. Check Settings > Network > Network for your Boxee Boxís local IP address if youíre have trouble automatically discovering the shared drive in your network.

judgeschambers
December 27th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Yes, I was typing \\10.0.0.3 into a browser ... didn't work ... also tried to create a new network alias (new drive "Z" that is \\10.0.0.3) which didn't work either.
Will try again your instructions above and hope to get this working.

You really should not have to do a Z drive.

I'm not sure why you are using the IP??? No need to muss with IP and browser....;)

Just set the settings in BBox per my and Support page instructions then open networking in XP and it should be there.

markush
December 27th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Thank you for your encouragement, gonna give it another try.

OldSpice81
December 27th, 2010, 09:24 PM
I just wanted to chime in with my experiences. My issue was I could see the USB drive on the network but I could not transfer files to it. I think it was a cheap USB drive I picked up on eBay.

I didnít do any testing but it works now with a different USB drive (Sandisk), the last Boxee update, and turned off then turned back on windows file sharing on the boxee. Works as I expected it should.

Win 7 Pro + Sandisk 4GB USB + Boxee Box = quick and dirty file transfer love :D

judgeschambers
December 27th, 2010, 10:39 PM
Win 7 Pro + Sandisk 4GB USB + Boxee Box = quick and dirty file transfer love :D

Ditto here too. :D

dshamo826
December 27th, 2010, 11:54 PM
I connected my ext wd hdd to my boxee box and wanted to read the files off my other boxee box but I keep getting an error when trying to open the folder. I go in to the 2nd boxee box, click "files", then click "network". There's a few path locations like "/boxee" "/boxee/media" or "1tb ext hdd". The first two open but have nothing in them, the last one gives me an error saying it can't open that location.

markush
December 30th, 2010, 04:38 AM
I am desperate ... enabled file sharing on boxee ... added the root directory on the external USB drive ... and on my win-xp computer I still see my computer in the workgroup ... no boxee box?

Any ideas / help ?

judgeschambers
December 30th, 2010, 05:36 AM
Did you run the "Set Up a Home or Small office Network" on XP? If not you won't see any active PC's or boxee until you do.

make sure boxee is on and not idle and run the wizard.

Go to:
Network Places
In the left column is Set Up a Home or Small office Network
Run the wizard and then follow the directions to share files, folders or printers
Once done it should show the bbox.

davidjlarsen
February 24th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Thanks, Judges!
I'm on a Win7x64 box with a Boxee Box on my network. Following your directions is enabling me to use the Boxee Box as a de facto NAS, to which I can download media content + backup files from my Win7 box.

Cheers,

se99jmk
February 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Hello - I'm having trouble seeing a connected drive at all.

Have ticked "Enable Windows File Sharing" and left all other options.
Have attempted to connect to it from OS X and Windows 7, no luck...

Have tried general network browsing, and using:
smb://boxeebox

It's a 2TB Iomega drive, USB 2.0

darcilicious
February 28th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Have tried general network browsing, and using:
smb://boxeebox

From Windows, do this in Windows Explorer \\boxeebox

Or Start Menu, select Network. If boxeebox doesn't show up there, power cycle the Boxee Box.

se99jmk
February 28th, 2011, 04:42 PM
From Windows, do this in Windows Explorer \\boxeebox

Or Start Menu, select Network. If boxeebox doesn't show up there, power cycle the Boxee Box.

Hmm, no luck with \\boxeebox will have to try powercycling ;-p

By that presumably you just mean turning off and on again?
Is it best to disconnect USB first, power down, power up and reconnect USB?

darcilicious
February 28th, 2011, 04:46 PM
Leave the USB connected. Being able to navigate to the Boxee Box via your network is independent of having a drive connected or not.

Yes, power cycling means turn it off and then turning it back on.

If you still can't see it from your Windows box, then go back to the Boxee Box and go into Settings>>Network and find out what the IP address that's been assigned to it. You could then try: \\xxx.xxx.x.xxx replacing the x's with the Box's IP address.

se99jmk
March 2nd, 2011, 04:51 PM
Leave the USB connected. Being able to navigate to the Boxee Box via your network is independent of having a drive connected or not.

Yes, power cycling means turn it off and then turning it back on.

No luck still after power cycling. On OS X went to finder and tried to open smb://boxeebox - also tried smb://192.168.1.72

Not tried Windows machine yet but more important for me to get it working on Mac instead

Any other suggestions? Will try and take photos of settings to see if I've missed something obvious..

darcilicious
March 2nd, 2011, 05:07 PM
How is the drive formatted? What size is the drive?

I'm no good with OS X, sorry. Let me know if you try via Windows and if there's an error, what message you get.

beingboston
March 3rd, 2011, 08:24 AM
THanks for the info guys. I was able to setup my BoxeeBox as a low powered NAS.

I can create new folders but I'm unable to add files to my existing folder structure. Do you know what permissions are needed so that I can write to the folders?

Thanks, Tim

se99jmk
March 6th, 2011, 06:42 AM
How is the drive formatted? What size is the drive?

I'm no good with OS X, sorry. Let me know if you try via Windows and if there's an error, what message you get.

Hi - Drive is formatted NTFS. 2TB Iomega USB 2.0 drive.

So I'm still trying to get this to work, multiple power cycles, restarting PC etc.
I've taken photos of everything, must be doing something wrong!

http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/242144/2/2011/03%20-%20Boxee%20Box%20Networking?h=df1169

Have tried connecting to it from Windows and OSX, no luck.

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Oddly I thought it might be a drive problem so connected a USB stick as well.. and it immediately disconnected the 2TB hard drive! Very strange..

se99jmk
March 6th, 2011, 09:21 AM
Have removed NTFS drive, attached a FAT32 USB stick and restarted BB.
Still not seeing BB on OS X or Windows 7.

So, I'm reasonably certain it's not the laptops, or storage HHDs.. That leaves the Boxee Box, or my network.

I'm currently using an O2 Box III - all devices on Wireless (802.11n).

Could there be something that needs to be changed on the network that is blocking the SMB share? Is it worth attempting to hardwire the network (at least temporarily) to see if that fixes the network share issues?

se99jmk
March 6th, 2011, 10:00 AM
Also can't get BB to see file shares from OSX either (some time ago, it wouldn't auto detect the share, but manual IP picked it up).

darren.hay
March 7th, 2011, 08:56 AM
I have been able to see the HDD via the boxee and can even connect it. The issues I am having is that the transfer speeds are terrible. When I first had it connected the speeds were much better. Now I do not know what has gone wrong. The computer is Win 7 and N speed wireless. Thanks.

se99jmk
March 8th, 2011, 01:53 PM
=RESOLVED=

Turns out the router was definitely to blame. Despite upgrading to the latest firmware, I couldn't ping any other devices (despite the fact that all were on the wireless and connecting to internet just fine).
The O2 Wireless Box III has major issues with WPA encryption - I downgraded it to WEP and hey presto! Windows and OS X can both see Boxee :-D

lshaker
March 18th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Hi,

I'm having trouble getting this to work and I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions. My set-up:

1. 2TB WD HD plugged into Boxee Box over USB.

2. Boxee Box plugged directly into Linksys WRT54G Router.

3. Laptop with Windows XP connected to router over wireless.

On the Boxee Box I went into the network settings and enabled sharing and deleted the password. I ran the XP network wizard on the laptop but the box does not show up. The router itself and a wireless printer do show up, and I can access them from my laptop. The laptop and the Boxee Box both connect fine to the internet.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what might be wrong? Could there be some router setting that is off? I have powered-off and restarted all of the devices.

Thanks in advance.

zurdyo
March 20th, 2011, 07:05 AM
Hey fellas, I got it to work on Mac OS X.

1. Go to Finder
2. Press cmd+K
3. Type: smb://boxeebox
4. Enter as Guest or as Registered User (user: guest, pw: leave blank)

You're in.
But now I'm experiencing the problem of not having enough privileges to copy or deleting anything on the disk...

klauzer
March 20th, 2011, 08:10 AM
I found my boxeebox in windows7

It was asking for username and password.
username is guest and I was entering the password but it didn't work even if I enter the right password.

What more do I have to do?

darcilicious
March 20th, 2011, 11:21 AM
But now I'm experiencing the problem of not having enough privileges to copy or deleting anything on the disk... That's a known bug http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-7623

darcilicious
March 20th, 2011, 11:23 AM
I found my boxeebox in windows7

It was asking for username and password.
username is guest and I was entering the password but it didn't work even if I enter the right password.

What more do I have to do?

My best recommendation is to not use a password at all. Go back to the Boxee Box, Settings>>Network>>Servers and blank out the password and then go back to the Home Screen.

Next, power cycle the Boxee Box and the Windows 7 computer. Hopefully now you won't be prompted for a password at all.

Moadeeb
May 20th, 2011, 06:34 AM
Right I managed to get mine to work at long last and my headache is slowly easing off - physical pain man!!!!!

I still can't see the boxeebox on my network (windows 7) but i can map the drive.

The key for me was the correct syntax and share name.

My example goes like this

Map the drive from explorer and type
\\boxeebox\OneTouch4\

OneTouch4 being the name of my drive as the Boxeebox understands it - I found this info in the File Sources section of settings and then I clicked on the specific share.

It actaully tells you the share location (yes I am an idiot!) in my case OneTouch4\TV Shows I assumed it was case sensitive.

Hope this helps some people because I still can't see the drive on my network but I can transfer files and edit files effortlessly now!!!

Stuart

slider1
August 30th, 2011, 10:50 AM
I had the same issue with a 1TB drive I had attached to the boxeebox.
The boxee showed up in my windows 7 WORKGROUP but I couldn't access it.

That's when I realized my service for TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper was stopped, so once started it and I set it to start automatically I was able to connect to my drive no problem.

Only thing now is the speed is not what I was expecting. I get no more than 1MB per second, anyone getting better? If so care to tell me how?

jasch
August 30th, 2011, 11:38 PM
I've never been able to get this to work. I can connect to the external HD connected to my Boxee, I can see directories and files, but I cannot play any of them.

Trying to open any files gives me an error (not enough permissions)

Some people have problems connecting, some people have problems writing files. I can't even read them.

In 2 months it will be one year since the Boxee box was released (I got one of the first one). How come in 10 months, SMB has not been fixed? Every firmware upgrade fixes some stuff, and breaks more.

Tried on OSX, Windows and from another media player with no luck at all. Finally moved the files yo my Drobo where I can stream perfectly