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Arcadius
December 26th, 2010, 08:13 PM
I attached a usb drive to my boxeebox so that I could upload to it through the box and then playback at higher speeds through the usb bus. I noticed that throughput uploading to the usb drive through the boxee is very slow--like 16 Mbps slow. That is very slow for a laptop connected via wireless N at 130 Mbps and a boxee that shows as connected to the router at 65 Mbps. I can download from the Internet faster ( 25 Mbps) than I can upload to the boxee on my wireless network.

Has anyone seen similar results? Note that 3 weeks from now my boxee will be hard wired to my network, but for now it's wireless only.

FirstGear
December 27th, 2010, 12:16 AM
it's pretty darn slow for me too, though i haven't measured the speed nor figured out if it's my wifi or what. most of what i transfer is real big, like 5-10gigs big, and that can take an hour or more.

Prospero424
December 27th, 2010, 01:34 AM
Most people report a throughput to the SMB share of a USB drive attached to the Boxee Box of about 8-11MB (megabytes) per second over 100Mb (megabit) wired Ethernet.

Remember that when you're doing WLAN transfers between two wireless devices (rather then between one wireless device and one wired device), you're cutting your max wireless transfer rate in half because the total bandwidth of the 2.4ghz network is shared between all active wireless devices.

If you're on a 150Mb/s 802.11n 2.4ghz network, you'll get maybe 75Mb/s in the real world under absolutely ideal circumstances. If you're going between two wireless devices, you have to cut that 75Mb in half again for a total of ~38Mb/s. Throw in some poor reception on either end and/or some interference from other 2.4ghz devices that aren't part of the same network and you're down near what you're getting now.

Your Internet speeds are more consistent because your router is connected to your modem (presumably) with an Ethernet cable rather than over WiFi.

But, like I said: most people get about ~65-80Mb/s (megabits) of real-world speed when their Boxee Box is connected via Ethernet. If you're going to use it as a sort of NAS and be transferring large files to and from a large attached drive all of the time, I would highly suggest not using WiFi.

Silverlock
December 27th, 2010, 01:54 AM
If the drive that's connected to the Box is NTFS formatted, writing large files to it can be slow and use a lot of CPU (http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#highcpu).

FirstGear
December 27th, 2010, 02:45 PM
FWIW, ftp to my xbox was MUCH faster than this. i'd like to try ftp but i don't see an option.

nfora
December 28th, 2010, 07:20 AM
I'm having this issue as well. I have a USB hard drive (HFS+) plugged into the BB, and writing files to over a wired network caps out around 25Mbps. On wireless I'm getting a pretty constant 17Mbps. The drive itself isn't a problem, since plugged directly into my mac it's speeds are exactly what you'd expect for a USB hard drive (at least 80-90Mbps).

My initial setup had the HDD on the network, and I faced long buffer times and occasionally choppy HD video, so I moved the disk to the Box itself. However, as things stand, I may have to move back and tweak my network settings, since it's looking like an issue on the Box itself.

vanquish99
January 8th, 2011, 05:10 PM
yeah well i have a Cisco Linksys WRT610N dualband 1 Gbit router, and any way being wifi or direct LAN connection i get very slow upload and often i get errors with connection lost to Samba server, so i'm all in on pluging my usb harddrive directly to my PC/MAC every time i update my media contens. Maybe its the processor of the Boxee box that cant handle this information faster because i connect wirelessly with full speed also. My disk is NTFS, should i chance the format? and to what, to gain speed?

Pocalypse
January 8th, 2011, 05:14 PM
Wow, my transfers are incredibly slow then.

Moving files between my PC (on ethernet) and boxee (on wireless), I get speeds of at most 2.8mpbs.

vtxrider
January 8th, 2011, 06:00 PM
I attached a usb drive to my boxeebox so that I could upload to it through the box and then playback at higher speeds through the usb bus. I noticed that throughput uploading to the usb drive through the boxee is very slow--like 16 Mbps slow. That is very slow for a laptop connected via wireless N at 130 Mbps and a boxee that shows as connected to the router at 65 Mbps. I can download from the Internet faster ( 25 Mbps) than I can upload to the boxee on my wireless network.

Has anyone seen similar results? Note that 3 weeks from now my boxee will be hard wired to my network, but for now it's wireless only.

Many people confuse MB/S with Mbps. I get about 9.5 MB/S over wired eithernet, this is due to a 10/100 fast eithernet switch that will be replaced with a 10/100/1000 switch soon, and at that time i expect the speed to jump. The other factor is that SMB/CIFS is just SLOW, FTP or AFP is much faster, heck, without journaling and using AFP with jumbo frames enabled you can get 40+ MB/S, but with this box we are stuck with CIFS/SMB for now, hope to see FTP soon.

vtxrider
January 8th, 2011, 06:07 PM
I'm having this issue as well. I have a USB hard drive (HFS+) plugged into the BB, and writing files to over a wired network caps out around 25Mbps. On wireless I'm getting a pretty constant 17Mbps. The drive itself isn't a problem, since plugged directly into my mac it's speeds are exactly what you'd expect for a USB hard drive (at least 80-90Mbps).

My initial setup had the HDD on the network, and I faced long buffer times and occasionally choppy HD video, so I moved the disk to the Box itself. However, as things stand, I may have to move back and tweak my network settings, since it's looking like an issue on the Box itself.

If you are getting 25 MB/S (megabytes) then you are doing OK, if you are getting 25 Mbps (megabits) then you are doing very BAD.

Greystorm
January 8th, 2011, 06:16 PM
Here is a request for adding an FTP server to the Boxee Box: http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-7864

FTP should perform better than SMB. Vote for it if you want the Boxee to run an FTP server.

Prospero424
January 9th, 2011, 05:00 AM
...this is due to a 10/100 fast eithernet switch that will be replaced with a 10/100/1000 switch soon, and at that time i expect the speed to jump.

Just remember that the Boxee Box's Ethernet port is 100Mb, not gigabit.

Arcadius
January 9th, 2011, 08:46 AM
If you are getting 25 MB/S (megabytes) then you are doing OK, if you are getting 25 Mbps (megabits) then you are doing very BAD.

I'm getting 25 Mbps...I am quite sure of the difference between Mbps and MBs.

influx2k
April 8th, 2011, 09:55 AM
I'm getting 25 Mbps...I am quite sure of the difference between Mbps and MBs.

Same here. I get about ~25 Mbps when transferring .mkv's from my desktop to an external hard disk (NTFS) connected to the BB via USB2 and shared using SMB. I am very aware of the difference between bits and bytes, and I most definitely getting ~25 Mbps. Is anyone else actually getting any higher speeds as previously reported? I'm not sure if this is because of conversion error on the parts of others or actually true. I will post a screenshot later to confirm. If others could do the same, that would be appreciated I'm sure.

Gori
May 11th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Hello, is there any progress as to this bug?

We should be getting far higher speeds than this, it sort of makes it very hard to use the Boxee as advertised, when the USB2 drives act like USB1 drives on the network.

This happens on a wired or a wireless connection, still the same slow USB speed.

darcilicious
May 11th, 2011, 06:00 PM
Hello, is there any progress as to this bug?Are you running the latest firmware (released today)? (v1.1.0.19xxx)

airbearski
August 30th, 2011, 04:46 PM
My Boxee Box is hooked up to a gig network at my home.
My question is, What are some of the speeds that people have been getting transferring a file from a computer to the SMB Share (1TB USB HDD plugged in to Boxee Box) on the Boxee Box?
The fastest Transfer speed I have achieved is 2.0 MBps. (16 Mbps) using Teracopy.
If it was maxing out the 100Mbps connection it would be closer to 11MBps.
I'm guessing the lag is due to the Boxee Box software SMB Server limitations??

How do you all get your large files to your Boxee Box's Attached HDD?

aaronwt
August 30th, 2011, 04:53 PM
When i use an external hard drive, I transfer the files from a PC to the drive while it's connected to a PC. Then I connect the USB drive to the Boxee Box. But that is only when I take the box on the road. I normally just stream the the files from my network storage devices over my network, straight to the Boxee Box to play.