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zaphod78
January 7th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Hi

I'm really interested in the boxee box, but am wondering what benefits it has over buying an original Apple TV and using the boxee app for that.

As far as I can see, the benefit of the Apple TV route would be that I get a 160GB hard drive I can fill will local content (ideal for when I don't want to have my PC switched on for streaming).

Downsides I can see is that the ATV remote isn't as good and it doesn't have access to USB/SD storage.

Is there anything else I've missed. Is the processor in the Boxee Box capable of more/better HD quality etc

Thanks in advance for any help.

neveroffline
January 7th, 2011, 02:28 AM
Hi

I'm really interested in the boxee box, but am wondering what benefits it has over buying an original Apple TV and using the boxee app for that.

As far as I can see, the benefit of the Apple TV route would be that I get a 160GB hard drive I can fill will local content (ideal for when I don't want to have my PC switched on for streaming).

Downsides I can see is that the ATV remote isn't as good and it doesn't have access to USB/SD storage.

Is there anything else I've missed. Is the processor in the Boxee Box capable of more/better HD quality etc

Thanks in advance for any help.

The BB is better than both the ATV1 and 2. Way way more in terms of capability. The ATV's are built for those ok with 99 cents an episode. On the ATV1 though you can install xbmc but it is nowhere near the BB in terms of capabilities hardware wise.

Kidloco46
January 7th, 2011, 02:56 AM
I have them both mate. Ive kept the appleTV because for music it it is head and shoulders over the Boxee Box. Movies though the Boxee is better. The main issue being it can only cope with 720p max. Give it a 1080p film and it just starts stuttering as it cant cope.

Is a shame, If it could handle 1080p then it would be pretty close to perfect.

neveroffline
January 7th, 2011, 03:05 AM
Is a shame, If it could handle 1080p then it would be pretty close to perfect.

That's sad. I don't think either are anywhere near perfect. Does the BB have a problem with music? Yes.

Cheers mate.

minel
January 7th, 2011, 03:45 AM
I have them both mate. Ive kept the appleTV because for music it it is head and shoulders over the Boxee Box. Movies though the Boxee is better. The main issue being it can only cope with 720p max. Give it a 1080p film and it just starts stuttering as it cant cope.

Is a shame, If it could handle 1080p then it would be pretty close to perfect.

Unless you put a CrystalHD card in the ATV it can't even handle 720p MKV's so AppleTV is quite useless IMHO

Rustycar
January 7th, 2011, 04:33 AM
As others have said dont bother with the AppleTV 1st gen. CrystalHD also only works with XBMC, plus you have to boot from linux to make it work more reliably.

If you want internal storage wait for the Iomega Boxee Box (http://blog.boxee.tv/2011/01/04/boxee-partners-with-iomega-nas-device-running-boxee-is-coming/) it comes with a 1TB or 2TB internal HDD.

xavier32178
January 7th, 2011, 05:09 AM
If you have the money buy both! My buddy has the new Apple tv and it's got a really great Netflix App on it. You can also use it to stream your iTunes music and also rent videos from iTunes to watch on it. I am thinking of getting one since they are only $99. Right now I have the Boxee Box on our main TV and a Roku on our one in our bedroom. So like I said if you have the money buy both and if not buy the Boxee Box:D

Kidloco46
January 7th, 2011, 05:14 AM
I really like the 1st gen appleTV because it acts a backup of all my music collection. Plus for actually playing music the interface is the best out there. Just the 'Genius' playlist funtion is worth it on its own.

As a movie playback device though it is was off the pace.

Not getting rid of mine any time soon though. I cant see Boxee ever handling music as well. But you never know.

cmbeard
January 7th, 2011, 09:35 AM
I have a hacked 1st gen AppleTV and still bought the BB. One thing I noticed and have not seen mentioned is the electricity use of the 1st gen AppleTV. There's no on/off switch on it and it stays hot all the time. After turning the old ATV off and using the BB for one month I saw a $20 drop in my electrical bill. Seriously.

Plus I had a lot more buffering issues with the ATV when streaming locally. I haven't had a problem at all with the BB.

The only downside is I can't play my DRM content with the BB. I'm waiting for BestBuy to carry the new ATV in stores (I have 5 gift cards and rewards coupons to use and don't want to try the hassle of using those online) and I might get one then. With my gift cards and coupons it'll be a $15 box, which I can deal with...

Peteostro
January 7th, 2011, 09:44 AM
I Have both ATV 1 with Boxee and a Boxee box. Boxee box is faster and can play flash videos at full speed. Boxee on ATV 1 has issues playing flash. On ATV 1 you can also run other things like sanzb and torrent cleints, cant do that on boxee box. They both play my local content fine. Music is WAY better on ATV1 with boxee.

Now boxee on a mac mini or Windows HTPC is a total different story but is of course more $$$

twistybox
January 7th, 2011, 09:50 AM
The original ATV also can't play 1080p content. I'd say that's a pretty big negative.

amerbs
January 7th, 2011, 12:32 PM
Hi

I'm really interested in the boxee box, but am wondering what benefits it has over buying an original Apple TV and using the boxee app for that.

As far as I can see, the benefit of the Apple TV route would be that I get a 160GB hard drive I can fill will local content (ideal for when I don't want to have my PC switched on for streaming).

Downsides I can see is that the ATV remote isn't as good and it doesn't have access to USB/SD storage.

Is there anything else I've missed. Is the processor in the Boxee Box capable of more/better HD quality etc

Thanks in advance for any help.
I`ve been using ATV1 with Boxee Beta and the Firecore hack for several months now and for me it works much better than the BBox. The UI is much nicer and I can use my universal remote. The only problem is that with HD material I need to switch over to my WDTV or PS3. I would wait for the next update though because if it solves all the disconnect and file access problems ( I`m on a Mac) it might be a different story. If the BBox actually ends up being able to play all my media then I can deal with the remote.