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sprasad03
January 17th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Hey guys,

I just purchased a Boxee. Here is my situation, I plan to transfer all my movies off my laptop since its taking up all my SSD space.
I want to be able to have an HDD show up on the network where I can just drag and drop files onto the HDD or even download straight to the drive. I also want the Boxee Box to be able to detect this drive at all times.

What should I get an External HDD?
If so, should I connect it straight to the Boxee Box or to the Router?

Should I get an NAS?
Will the boxee box detect a NAS?

Also, if you know of any great HDD or NAS, please let me know.

aberg83
January 17th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I've got my Boxee Box wired to my Netgear WNR3500L router running Tomato USB firmware. Attached to the USB port on the router is a 2TB Western Digital external USB 2.0 hard drive, on which is stored all of my content. This has worked flawlessly for me. There might be better solutions out there but this was cost effective for me. I preferred having the drive connected to the router since it is always on and visible to everybody else on the network at all times. If you connect directly to the Boxee Box and share it then it is only visible when your Boxee Box is turned on. I like to turn mine off when not in use.

Hope that helps somewhat.

bobrooney
January 17th, 2011, 01:12 PM
I am using a Synololy NAS with 2x2TB disks.

Has a much better performance than my external disk connected to my Netgear 3500L router.

mbryanr
January 17th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Hey guys,

Also, if you know of any great HDD or NAS, please let me know.

Couple of questions first - what are your storage requirements/expectations?

Since you are using an SSD currently, I'd guess that your current storage is <1TB?.

If you don't expect to exceed the 1-2TB amount...I'd suggest an external hard drive, or even a dual-bay enclosure which will allow a backup.

If you do expect to have storage requirements >2TB...go with a NAS/Server solution. It will be easier to manage in the long run.

Specific NAS/Server solutions:
What is your experience level?

Think you can build your own?

If not, go with a readily available Synology or Qnap solution.
The Synology DS211j will give you up to 6TB of storage, or 3TB in a Raid 1 configuration. I have a DS210j and it provides much more than just basic storage through the DSM interface:
Live Demo here: http://www.synology.com/us/products/demo/index.php

Another option includes the Drobo for the pre-built home NAS.

One of the storage solutions I use is unRAID. User shares can combine multiple disks, and disks of any size can be added as you choose.
Many of the add-ons can be installed through the pre-compiled packages, but it is not as easy as an external drive or a QnaP/Syno solution.

And you have to build your own. A system can be built (new) for <$350 plus drives. Existing motherboards or components may be able to be used dependent on compatibility. You can increase the storage size to 20 data drives (plus a parity and cache drive)
More info here:
http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php?title=Unofficial_Documentation
http://www.lime-technology.com/

The Boxee uses SMB to detect network shares. My unRAID and Synology shares were easily detected by the Box.

aberg83
January 17th, 2011, 01:43 PM
I am using a Synololy NAS with 2x2TB disks.

Has a much better performance than my external disk connected to my Netgear 3500L router.

Agreed, but you likely spent $300+ for that Synology, right?

I'm quite happy with the performance of my drive connected just to the 3500. Not perfect forever but gets the job done now on a budget.

MrMichaelJames
January 17th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Hey guys,

I just purchased a Boxee. Here is my situation, I plan to transfer all my movies off my laptop since its taking up all my SSD space.
I want to be able to have an HDD show up on the network where I can just drag and drop files onto the HDD or even download straight to the drive. I also want the Boxee Box to be able to detect this drive at all times.

What should I get an External HDD?
If so, should I connect it straight to the Boxee Box or to the Router?

Should I get an NAS?
Will the boxee box detect a NAS?

Also, if you know of any great HDD or NAS, please let me know.

I have a Synology 1010+ NAS with 5 1TB drives in it, and it works great.

sprasad03
January 17th, 2011, 02:30 PM
Hey guys,

I am looking right now for 1-2 TB of storage. I figure that will last me for a while, almost every movie I d/l is 10GB. But I don't see myself breaking that limit for a while.

So external HDD seems to be what I need...from what I am reading.

If so, I should connect it to a router, so its displayed on the network right?

Also, any particular HDD you recommend that won't break the bank? I at least want it to be 7200 RPM.

kenjisugahara
January 17th, 2011, 03:03 PM
I have the D-Link DNS-323 (http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DNS-323-Network-Attached-Enclosure/dp/B000GK8LVE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295298012&sr=8-1) with 2x 1 TB drives in it.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/312BYmDGBiL._AA300_.jpg

Works really well for me. I make sure I have it on the same switch as the Boxee and it runs well. As far as HDs are concerned I use Samsung Spinppoint (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000014&IsNodeId=1&Description=samsung%20spinpoint&name=Internal%20Hard%20Drives)drives.

seand5018
January 17th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Curious about the tomato usb router solution. Was looking at this myself and read that this NAS-on-the-cheap maxes out around 200-250 mbps transfer rate. Is that really fast enough for video playback.

I know all these pro NAS systems are up to it but curious about the low-end speed wise.

aberg83
January 17th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I've had zero issues with streaming 720p content from a Tomato USB router's connected external hard drive. I can't confirm 1080p though as my TV is only 720p capable thus so is all my content to save HD space.

seand5018
January 17th, 2011, 04:04 PM
I've had zero issues with streaming 720p content from a Tomato USB router's connected external hard drive. I can't confirm 1080p though as my TV is only 720p capable thus so is all my content to save HD space.
Thanks for the answer. I'm still using an Apple TV so 720 is the max anyway.
Is your drive formatted ntsf or xfs? I read on tomato usb forum xfs is a little zipier but I don't run Linux normally.

seand5018
January 17th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Also have you tried miniDLNA for UpnP or strictly Samba?

aberg83
January 17th, 2011, 04:09 PM
My drive is formatted as ext3 and I can say it's about twice as fast as NTFS for large file transfers to/from the drive through the network. I am using only samba sharing for now.

seand5018
January 18th, 2011, 09:28 AM
My drive is formatted as ext3 and I can say it's about twice as fast as NTFS for large file transfers to/from the drive through the network. I am using only samba sharing for now.

Thanks for the info.

lukad
January 18th, 2011, 09:40 AM
I have the D-Link DNS-323 (http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DNS-323-Network-Attached-Enclosure/dp/B000GK8LVE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295298012&sr=8-1) with 2x 1 TB drives in it.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/312BYmDGBiL._AA300_.jpg

Works really well for me. I make sure I have it on the same switch as the Boxee and it runs well. As far as HDs are concerned I use Samsung Spinppoint (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000014&IsNodeId=1&Description=samsung%20spinpoint&name=Internal%20Hard%20Drives)drives.

I picked up this for $120 and two 2TB Samsung Drives for less than $200 during crazy black friday deals and it was the best decision I've made for my Boxee setup. External HD's are all well and good, but running a RAID 1 configuration on a NAS (2 hard drives, 1 an identical clone of the other) will protect your data from crashes while giving you the performance you need to access your content quickly.

Kidloco46
January 18th, 2011, 09:57 AM
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n260/kidloco46/HF2-SU2S2PackageFront.jpg

im using one of these for now. it has 4 x 1tb drives installed. Will swap for 2tb drives in the future now the price of the them in the UK is finally coming down.

drae
January 18th, 2011, 10:14 AM
I picked up this for $120 and two 2TB Samsung Drives for less than $200 during crazy black friday deals and it was the best decision I've made for my Boxee setup. External HD's are all well and good, but running a RAID 1 configuration on a NAS (2 hard drives, 1 an identical clone of the other) will protect your data from crashes while giving you the performance you need to access your content quickly.

I've got a DNS-323 as well... if you do decide to purchase this MAKE SURE you upgrade the firmware to the latest and greatest. If you mirror your drives to provide a backup make sure you configure the unit to email you on drive failure. I lost a drive recently and the 323 never notified me, and never showed as a failed drive either.

Other than that and slow speeds, it's a decent device for the price!

james0810
January 18th, 2011, 09:58 PM
I have a QNAP NAS (TS-559) which works perfectly with the Boxee box. I am used to dl and store the HD or Full HD TV episodes and movies on my NAS, connect them via a homeplug, and play it on my LED TV. I personally would recommend using the NAS instead of the external drive, because it not only protects your data (with RAID), but also supports varied features for different uses.

You may also consider to have a QNAP NAS since it is sort of a leading manufacturer in the NAS market, and they also have a great reputation on the service and tech. support.

PratterFak
January 19th, 2011, 04:47 AM
Hey guys,

I am looking right now for 1-2 TB of storage. I figure that will last me for a while, almost every movie I d/l is 10GB. But I don't see myself breaking that limit for a while.

So external HDD seems to be what I need...from what I am reading.

If so, I should connect it to a router, so its displayed on the network right?

Also, any particular HDD you recommend that won't break the bank? I at least want it to be 7200 RPM.

I just plugged in a 1TB WD USB powered ext HDD to the Boxee Box. It works perfectly. I would suggest just getting a USB HDD to save some money- AC powered to get even more space for the price.

As far as network sharing: I can easily access the HDD attached to my Boxee from both my Ubuntu and Windows 7 machine over my network (you only need to have the Boxee on or in sleep- if it's totally off, it won't share the drive). Basically plugging an ext HDD into the Boxee makes it a cheap NAS.

It sounds like you may like the 2TB WD 3.0 USB. ;) It's currently going for about $130. That'll give you good space for the future and 3.0USB if you want to take advantage of that later. Or you could go with the WD Elements 2TB and save $20. Oh yea, I've had many, but WD is my fav HDD. :)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Essential-External-WDBACW0020HBK-NESN/dp/B0041OSQBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295433527&sr=8-1

Also, the reason I didn't recommend and even talk about a NAS is because I noticed you said "won't break the bank". Sure, that may be the best large storage solution overall, but it can get very expensive. I just have anything I'm not willing to lose on multiple drives- problem solved and much cheaper (although that may be too much work/hassle for some).

rollins215
January 19th, 2011, 09:10 AM
This fairly inexpensive 1TB NAS has been fantastic for me for over a year and working flawlessly with the Boxee Box, never a single second of buffering during BD rip playback over wireless on my totally low-end network. :)

http://www.buy.com/prod/iomega-1tb-home-media-network-hard-drive/q/loc/101/210573494.html

You can get a 2 TB version for around $30 or $40 more, too.

seand5018
January 19th, 2011, 09:16 AM
If you like to share the same files libarary with more than one computer/boxee player, etc., esp. at the same time. Or if you do a lot of peer2peer file sharing it may effect performance to have Boxee auto-scraping files in the process of being downloaded, under those circumstances not just connecting a USB drive but using a NAS can make a noticeable difference in performance or the ammount of itmes you have to rebuild your SMB paths. But then there is also the option of having the router mount and serve the drive mentioned above. So its sort of multi-tier.

Also you know some people like to use NAS's to back up their desktops as well as store their movies. Strange as that sounds.

Look30
January 19th, 2011, 09:26 AM
I have the WDNR3700 running stock firmware v1.0.4.75 with a Nextstar3 enclosure holding a 2TB WD Green drive formated partially EXT3 for larger files and FAT32 for smaller files (if i would to do it right now I would go EXT3 all the way) and a WD 1.5TB enclosure dirrectly attached to the BB.

Reason is transfer speeds :
WD enclosure attached to BB yilds 5-6 Mb/s transfer (writing)
NAS attached to router 12-15 Mb/s transfer (writing)
NAS formated NTSC was very slow barelly reaching 2Mb/s.

seand5018
January 19th, 2011, 09:35 AM
I have the WDNR3700 running stock firmware v1.0.4.75 with a Nextstar3 enclosure holding a 2TB WD Green drive formated partially EXT3 for larger files and FAT32 for smaller files (if i would to do it right now I would go EXT3 all the way) and a WD 1.5TB enclosure dirrectly attached to the BB.

Reason is transfer speeds :
WD enclosure attached to BB yilds 5-6 Mb/s transfer (writing)
NAS attached to router 12-15 Mb/s transfer (writing)
NAS formated NTSC was very slow barelly reaching 2Mb/s.

Thats pretty fast writing. So on your WDNR3700 router (stock firmware, not DDRW or Tomato, open source firmwares) it also likes the drive formatted for Linux i.e. ext3? Interesting.

gianpaj
May 22nd, 2011, 07:36 PM
Sorry for writing on this old topic, but i've a quick question.

I want to buy the Boxee Box (i've got it installed in an old linux box at the moment) and buy also a NAS or External HD.

The purpose of the NAS/External HD (connected to the Boxee via USB2.0) is to store Movies/TV Shows and also have a partition where I'll keep a time machine backup of my laptop (macbook).

I'm also looking for an HDTV 1080p so I can watch 1080p blu-ray XviD and h.264.

So the actual question is can I do all that with a fast USB 2.0 HD like the My Book Studio Edition II (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=210) ?

Thanks