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arildsd
February 27th, 2011, 08:37 AM
I just got my boxee box this week, finally! And now I am wondering of getting a real server for my files.
Now I am only using my homePC, running Win7 Ultimate x64, and my harddisks are beginning to get full,

I have searched for a good NAS to my mediacenter, and I have fallen in love with this beauty:

So I am thinking of buying the Synology DiskStation DS1010+ (http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS1010+/index.php) and putting in five of these Western Digital Caviar® Green™ 3TB (http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_caviar_green_3tb_review_wd30ezrsdt l)
I already got D-link DIR-655 (http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=530) router.

I'm gonna set the drives up in RAID5 since I need a good option of backup if one of the drives should break one day.

Do anyone have any experience with the NAS or tips for me? Do you guys think this is a good setup?
And will it stream 1080p movies without problems?

Arcadius
February 27th, 2011, 09:16 AM
I have no personal experience with the Synology, I use cheaper WD Live drives, but Synology is one of the highest rated consumer NAS devices. One of these days I will get a setup that includes one.

That setup should work very nicely for you. Make sure you wire the boxeebox and the Synology directly to the router or ( what I would do) buy a Gigabit switch and uplink that to your router and plug the bbox and the Synology to the switch. You can get nice shiny black low power Gigabit switches from D-Link for very low prices. The 5 port is 29 dollars and the 8 port is 39 dollars. They uplink quite fine to the DIR 655 ( I have that same router), and the throughput on the switch is very good.

You should have no problem streaming 1080p with both devices wired to the same device.

scotw
February 27th, 2011, 09:59 AM
I have the smaller DS209 box and can say I think its excellent, good interface and features, good support and its a proper server if you need to dig deeper into the OS.

voip-ninja
February 27th, 2011, 10:06 AM
There is a very large thread already about Synology and Boxee box. Newer version of 1010+ is DS1511+.

I have this one and it streams blu-ray to Boxee wonderfully.

ScottAllyn
February 27th, 2011, 10:17 AM
The Synology 1010+ works quite well with the Boxee Box. You'd better check with Synology on the compatibility with that drive, tho; it's not in the list. RAID5 is a good idea since those are desktop-class drives and it's not a question of "if" one breaks, but "when". The thought of putting 5 of those things into a NAS, even with RAID5, makes me cringe. :D

arildsd
February 27th, 2011, 11:00 AM
The Synology 1010+ works quite well with the Boxee Box. You'd better check with Synology on the compatibility with that drive, tho; it's not in the list. RAID5 is a good idea since those are desktop-class drives and it's not a question of "if" one breaks, but "when". The thought of putting 5 of those things into a NAS, even with RAID5, makes me cringe. :D

I have already checked, and its OK
http://www.synology.com/support/hd.php?lang=enu
(http://www.synology.com/support/hd.php?lang=enu)

arildsd
February 27th, 2011, 11:06 AM
I have no personal experience with the Synology, I use cheaper WD Live drives, but Synology is one of the highest rated consumer NAS devices. One of these days I will get a setup that includes one.

That setup should work very nicely for you. Make sure you wire the boxeebox and the Synology directly to the router or ( what I would do) buy a Gigabit switch and uplink that to your router and plug the bbox and the Synology to the switch. You can get nice shiny black low power Gigabit switches from D-Link for very low prices. The 5 port is 29 dollars and the 8 port is 39 dollars. They uplink quite fine to the DIR 655 ( I have that same router), and the throughput on the switch is very good.

You should have no problem streaming 1080p with both devices wired to the same device.

Why do you think I should run via a switch? Just wondering. :)

If I am going to use a switch i want a PoE switch w/Gigabit support.
And if its out on ebay it would be even better!

Thx!
If someone could link to some cheap switches I would appreciate it :)

Arcadius
February 27th, 2011, 05:09 PM
Why do you think I should run via a switch? Just wondering. :)

If I am going to use a switch i want a PoE switch w/Gigabit support.
And if its out on ebay it would be even better!

Thx!
If someone could link to some cheap switches I would appreciate it :)

I like to use a switch for a couple of reasons. I don't really like to stress my router with a lot of local high speed LAN traffic. So I like to keep my lower throughput devices attached to the router, such as TV, Blu-Ray player,Wii,etc, and then hang a switch off of the router for NAS, Boxee and things like that. That way I can push dozens of Gigabytes around on the switch while the router remains out of the loop.

And the other reason being simple port density. Just about everything you buy entertainment wise now has an RJ-45. Most routers come with 4 or so RJ-45's. At some point you are going to need a switch.

bek
February 27th, 2011, 05:32 PM
I have the DS1511+ and it works. No real problems.

I can't stream consistently across my network because of a Boxee box error, but that was happening before I connected the NAS. Performance wise, I think you'll be just fine... I have streamed everything and it's fine.

I am having some trouble right now with disks 3-5, and may even need to return the box, but I think it's a freak problem. Synology seems very good.

voip-ninja
February 27th, 2011, 09:37 PM
I have the DS1511+ and it works. No real problems.

I can't stream consistently across my network because of a Boxee box error, but that was happening before I connected the NAS. Performance wise, I think you'll be just fine... I have streamed everything and it's fine.

I am having some trouble right now with disks 3-5, and may even need to return the box, but I think it's a freak problem. Synology seems very good.

What model hard drives are you using?

tyx2
February 27th, 2011, 11:55 PM
Synology looks like they make a great product. For what it is worth I built a box from spare parts I had lying around and installed FREENAS all I have to say is WOW. It works better that a few other nas boxes i have tried if anybody is looking for a DIY project it is well worth it. I have had zero headaches so far.

kaosdk
February 28th, 2011, 05:07 AM
Hey !! ;-)

Its a good choice - Synology works perfectly.. Just remember to use it with SAMBA, when you are using BoxeeBox - Regular streaming with UPNP gave me pretty much headache - You can read that in a thread a little old in this forum..

Good choice again !! Synology rocks !!!


I just got my boxee box this week, finally! And now I am wondering of getting a real server for my files.
Now I am only using my homePC, running Win7 Ultimate x64, and my harddisks are beginning to get full,

I have searched for a good NAS to my mediacenter, and I have fallen in love with this beauty:

So I am thinking of buying the Synology DiskStation DS1010+ (http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS1010+/index.php) and putting in five of these Western Digital Caviar® Green™ 3TB (http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_caviar_green_3tb_review_wd30ezrsdt l)
I already got D-link DIR-655 (http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=530) router.

I'm gonna set the drives up in RAID5 since I need a good option of backup if one of the drives should break one day.

Do anyone have any experience with the NAS or tips for me? Do you guys think this is a good setup?
And will it stream 1080p movies without problems?

arildsd
February 28th, 2011, 11:24 AM
Yep :) In the beginning I was actually going for the 1010+, but now I see that there i a newer modell out, with a better CPU. And it's almost the same price So I am thinking of maybe go for the DS1511+ instead.

http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS1511+/index.php

voip-ninja
February 28th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Yep :) In the beginning I was actually going for the 1010+, but now I see that there i a newer modell out, with a better CPU. And it's almost the same price So I am thinking of maybe go for the DS1511+ instead.

http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS1511+/index.php

Quite a few people at AVS forums are using 1511+ with Boxee and Netgear streamers and are reporting great success. I have been able to stream three simultaneous BD MKV files off of the 1511+ while also uploading new files and it never skips a beat. The performance, especially with budget desktop "green" hard drives is quite impressive.

Certainly if the price tag is scary then there are far cheaper options such as UNRAID, etc. I just wanted an SMB class machine backed by a manufacturer warranty, etc.

FastM
February 28th, 2011, 12:03 PM
My BB streams everything from my DS1511+ using samba.

Has worked flawlessly since day 1. Everything from a 300meg .avi to 20gig mks's buffers in less then 2sec and I've never seen a stutter or had a pause during playback with my setup.

Im using a simple 8-port d-link gigabit switch to connect everything at home.

The DS1511+ is really an amazing NAS (I have 5 5900rpm LP 2TB seagate drives in Raid-5). My laptop runs 2 intel SSD's drives in raid-0 and I can transfers large files to and from the NAS at over 100mb's/sec! Plus the DSM software is great to use with things like FileStation that I have setup accessible from the web.

You'll be very happy with that setup.

arildsd
February 28th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Thanks for all the constructive critics guys!
Oh snap! I think I have all the Hardware ready now, and it looks good!


My setup:

MediaCenter: D-link Boxee Box
NAS: Synology DiskStation DS1511+
Drives x5: Western Digital Caviar® Green™ 3TB
Router: D-link DIR-655
Switch: D-Link DGS-1008D/E 8P gigabit

Im gonna have to sell my old stuff to afford this setup, lol! :D

hdmkv
February 28th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Once 3TB drives come down in price, I'm going to jump on the 1511+ :).

arildsd
March 1st, 2011, 11:33 AM
Once 3TB drives come down in price, I'm going to jump on the 1511+ :).

Yeah, they aren't to cheap yet, but I think It's a OK investment xD

voip-ninja
March 1st, 2011, 11:49 AM
Once 3TB drives come down in price, I'm going to jump on the 1511+ :).

I just built mine with 2TB drives as it meets my current storage needs. When 3TB drives are down to $75 in another year or 18 months I will start swapping out the 2TB drives for larger ones.

neveroffline
March 1st, 2011, 07:09 PM
Hey guys, I just priced the Synology 1511+ at newegg + 5 WD Caviar Green 2 TB's and it was $1309.43 with 3 day shipping.

Is that a good price, or has someone seen a better deal on it?

Broke down this way:
$899.99 for the 1511
$79.99 each for the HDD's

Does anyone use the torrent feature, and if so, how is it?

Thanks.

FastM
March 1st, 2011, 07:13 PM
Hey guys, I just priced the Synology 1511+ at newegg + 5 WD Caviar Green 2 TB's and it was $1309.43 with 3 day shipping.

Is that a good price, or has someone seen a better deal on it?

Broke down this way:
$899.99 for the 1511
$79.99 each for the HDD's

Does anyone use the torrent feature, and if so, how is it?

Thanks.

That looks like a pretty good deal.

The DownloadStation app with DSM3.0 wasn't the greatest but DSM 3.1 was officially released today and is supposed to have improvements. I'll be trying it again soon...

canuckle
March 1st, 2011, 10:46 PM
Just thought I'd give you a heads up....If you're looking at WD EARS drives, make sure they are compatible/supported by Synology. There are some issues with EARS drives and RAID.

Some of the Synology NAS owners may be able to elaborate. I used some WD Caviar green drives on a built in motherboard RAID and ran into problems with the drives going into a powersave mode. It messed up my RAID pretty bad. There are hacks out there apparently.

Here's a Synology thread about WD Ears drives.

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=20795

arildsd
March 2nd, 2011, 12:05 PM
Was actually wondering about the same thing, I found a little bit on Synology's homepage.

Here:
http://www.synology.com/us/products/features/downloadstation2.php

neveroffline
March 2nd, 2011, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the heads up canukle.

I checked into it a bit more, and that thread you sent ends in Jun of 2010. Dug deeper and read the synology keyword reviews on newegg on the WD 2TB ears. Some people are reporting zero issues, and some are reporting having to install wdidle3 - which if you end up on that site it says NOT to use it with these WD EARS drives (only lists them up to the 1 TB model) - and gives you 4 specific drives you can use it on.

So I'm not sure. There is a segate of lower speed without the green at the same price, but its 32MB cache vs 64 and has no power savings (which ironically might be the issue with these drives - lol).

The reason I'm going with this (I have 2 S-A-S servers already) is for power savings. I thought about building the NAS myself using freeNAS and a mini ITX gigabyte and price wise and build wise it would be similar - but there is zero savings in expending 2x-4x the power doing it while getting the same quality more or less. My xeons eat juice, so having a low power NAS is ideal. Its kinda like the fact that the Boxee Box uses so few watts vs the fact that an HTPC would use 10x times that and have the same function.

neveroffline
March 2nd, 2011, 02:24 PM
Was actually wondering about the same thing, I found a little bit on Synology's homepage.

Here:
http://www.synology.com/us/products/features/downloadstation2.php

Saw that yesterday. The new version looks much nicer, has drag drop, etc. The RSS scruber is a nice feature too, but not sure if that was in 3.0 or not.

Vito_Corleone
March 2nd, 2011, 08:40 PM
I use a 1511+. No complaints.