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Old Yesterday, 09:31 AM
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From what I understood it was already done, certification takes months through intel though. When he said certain people he prob meant all the people with HD audio, not everyone uses hd audio.
If it's done, why not release it as a beta version in lieu of the certifications. Do we really need the certs to just get a beta?
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 AM
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If it's done, why not release it as a beta version in lieu of the certifications. Do we really need the certs to just get a beta?
I'll drink to that

Marcel let's make this happen

Maybe we can jack the new SDK update at their next kegger, who's with me?!

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Isn't it two years because you are in the UK? In the US it is only a one year warranty. Aren't there different rules across the pond for warranties?
Entirely possible. Seems a bit odd to me though, it's a product manufacturer's warranty after all, not a statutory provision or a reseller service. Can't imagine why it'd differ geographically, but of course it may do. Sorry if my post raised false hopes or was misleading. My point really was unless you're 100% certain about the D-Link warranty being 1 year only, it might be worth a phone call.


+1 for "fix it in a beta & do the paperwork later". Heck I'll sign something to acknowledge it's unsupported or whatever. What's to lose?
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So, why not get your money back + and say good riddance before they get pounded into oblivion. You saw the video. Does it appear as though the President gives a $#|+ ?
I am waiting to see whats coming out this year and replacing the boxee.

Your correct he couldn't have given a better impression of we don't give a crap and tough for you.

Didn't even know about issues on the box.

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Old Yesterday, 06:07 PM
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In this case there is not a Limitations issue - or even a warranty issue. It's a matter of when you ought to have known. The box was advertised as delivering hd audio. Boxee still has not come out and said they they will NOT fix the audio issues. They've actually done the opposite. But now they have shot them selves in the foot by pissing off customers by taking so long.

We'd have two years from when they announce they have no plans to fix the issue.

If there are enough boxee customers, a high enough percentage of overall sales, that would like their money back plus any related costs associated with their purchase, we could do this as a group.


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Entirely possible. Seems a bit odd to me though, it's a product manufacturer's warranty after all, not a statutory provision or a reseller service. Can't imagine why it'd differ geographically, but of course it may do. Sorry if my post raised false hopes or was misleading. My point really was unless you're 100% certain about the D-Link warranty being 1 year only, it might be worth a phone call.


+1 for "fix it in a beta & do the paperwork later". Heck I'll sign something to acknowledge it's unsupported or whatever. What's to lose?

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Nice little piece concerning Avner's use of "if and when" on the youtube video
If and When
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Jeremy Pierce
on December 24, 2005 7:50 AM | Permalink | Comments (10)

Sometimes people will be unsure of something they think might happen. They will then say "if and when it happens, we need to be prepared" or some such thing. I have never understood what this is supposed to mean. If they just said, "when it happens...", then they would have been assuming that it would happen, when it might not happen. My guess is that somehow, to avoid that impression, someone started saying "if and when...", and then they were sure to have covered all their bases. The only problem with this is that you can do that simply by saying "if it happens...", because that allows for both possibilities -- its happening and its not happening. So were the people who first started using this odd conjunction simply unaware of that?

What's worse is that they made it a conjunction rather than a disjunction. If they thought of 'if' and 'when' as two distinct possible introductory connectives, then they should have said "if or when...", but that's not what people say. What is 'if and when' even supposed to mean, then? I think it just means the same thing as 'if'. I think it also means the same thing as 'if or when'. It's a strange sort of redundancy, though, because it's not analyzable in terms of its components as 'if or when' would be (though that's redundant also, just a more easily analyzable redundancy). So what's going on here? When annoying expressions are as commonly used as this one, it's a great relief when someone can explain them in a way that makes them much less annoying, but no one's ever done that with this one. Is there something I'm missing?

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Jeremy Pierce, the author of that little diatribe was thinking a little too much of his reasoning abilities and failed brilliantly. The "when" is there to imply a timeframe or period for the reaction to start. Without it, the reaction to the IF is indeterminate. It can be the hour of, one day later, one year later or 100 years later.
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Old Today, 09:35 AM
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seriously, we , boxee customers , now have to analyse CEO words to figure out what they can do about this issue... unreal!
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Old Today, 09:47 AM
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lmao, thanks for breakin it down for me Twisty. On a plus note, NCAA tourney starts in a little over an hour. That should keep me busy for awhile, so as not to have to analyze anymore terminology. GO CUSE!
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I thinks its a way to talk a lot but say very little. It was kinda like Charlie Brown "waahhh wah wahhhhh wahhh" if and when "wahhh wahh waahh" some people "wahh wah" I don't care "wah"
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